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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2003 9:42:26 pm PDT #3434 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

No, I get the grandfathering. I'm just unclear on when this shift in spoiler policy was discussed before being implemented.

That seems to be the sticking point.


Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 9:42:28 pm PDT #3435 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Unless proven otherwise, it seems reasonable to assume that the spoiler policy as stated in the FAQ predates the board and should be grandfathered.


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 9:43:54 pm PDT #3436 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

We're trying to determine when the shift occured. Well, I'm not so much trying as saying 'hmm, don't remember' at intervals. But I'm trying to remember, so I think I get partial points.


Kristen - Jul 25, 2003 9:45:59 pm PDT #3437 of 10005

Not seeming so reasonable from here. If the current wording was something that was discussed in Bureaucracy before being implemented, then yes. It would fall under grandfathering and we can stop talking about it for six to eight weeks. But if there wasn't an actual discussion or consensus, bullshit or otherwise, it doesn't.


Susan W. - Jul 25, 2003 9:50:43 pm PDT #3438 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Doesn't seem so reasonable to me, either. To me, it's kind of a special case, since it's the INTERPRETATION of the rule that's become stricter over time, without discussion or consensus.


Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 9:53:38 pm PDT #3439 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Then forget about interpretation. Consider it grandfathered it as written.

Q. What do you guys consider a spoiler?
A. Anything that hasn't been broadcast. So anything from the show and the preview trailers is okay, anything from TV Guide or anywhere else is a spoiler, including casting news, episode titles and plot twists. No white fonting. Spoilers should only be posted in the spoiler thread.

No drifting or anit-spoilers to one side, no casting news to the other.


Susan W. - Jul 25, 2003 9:55:07 pm PDT #3440 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I don't want to forget about interpretation. Interpretation matters as much as the letter of the law itself.


Kristen - Jul 25, 2003 9:58:16 pm PDT #3441 of 10005

But what about board precedent? One could argue that precedents previously set have as much right to grandfathering protection as the FAQ.


Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 9:59:57 pm PDT #3442 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

This spoiler has FAR more HSQ than any before. I don't think it is precedented.


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 10:01:16 pm PDT #3443 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

If the current wording was something that was discussed in Bureaucracy before being implemented, then yes.

Pretty sure it was.

And this is just what we're trying to figure out.