Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
I just feel like the UnAms are getting the short end of the stick, again, even though this time, they're getting episodes before NAFDA posters [....] I just think it's the UnAmistas turn to own the FF thread.
That's a fair point. I won't press it any more either. I think we need other voices here. Whatever we decide, we should decide soon -- today if possible -- so that the Brits can stop having to type with one hand over their eyes.
It seems to me that most of the current discussion about Firefly is being driven by the veiwings in the UK. Also, I'm pretty sure most of the hardcore FF fans have seen the unaired eps already. (I haven't, but I've read the scripts.) So I'm for letting the UKers post in the main thread and leave the spoiler thread for the totally spoiled.
The one problem with a temporary ban in the spoiler thread is that is that I'm never sure what episode have aired in the UK or what episode goes with which title, so I'm sure I'd accidentally open up my big up my big spoiled mouth.
If there's one thing us spoiler whores hate, it's whitefont ;)
but the spoiler policy seems like it should put the emphasis on the "unaired" part, not the "US" part -- I'm guessing the US-y-ness of the rule is because it was written when everything was airing here first.
Well, the Atlantic Canadians have to wait a day.
Well, the Atlantic Canadians have to wait a day.
Well, not any more...
The Atlantic Canadian problem was longer term. Hence, they were given their own thread. This situation is just temporary.
If we allow the Brit's schedule to drive the main thread, can we agree not to discuss "Objects in Space" in the main thread until it airs there in three weeks?
Personally, I'm anti-un-US aired eps in the main thread.
It does leave a bunch of people homeless, doesn't it?
Whatever happens, it seems like some people are going to feel homeless for a while, at least. And that even after all the eps have aired, the Brits will want to discuss all the episodes, and that they'll have to do that in the spoiler thead. It would suit me best (and this is the course I'm following at the moment) if we moved Brit discussion to the spoiler thread, with a polite request not to spoil us (me) too badly until after 4th August, when the last unaired ep, 'Heart of Gold' is finally aired. We can then discuss 'Objects in Space' in the spoiler thread and/or the main thread, depending.
It's too short a time to require a whole new thread, but it's too long a time (and for those of us who are seeing the episodes for the first time, as a part of a whole which we're very excited, if a little bitter, about, a couple of weeks is a long time) to hold off discussion altogether.
I vote for discussion in the Spoiler thread, and ask people there to extend the same courtesy as has been given in the NAFDA thread. We may well end up moving most of the discussion back to the main thread, say when there are DVDs, and it's reasonable to feel that we're no longer spoiling Americans for the three episodes which weren't aired in the original, American run.
Personally, I'm anti-un-US aired eps in the main thread.
It does leave a bunch of people homeless, doesn't it?
Although we were going to wait until August to make such changes, I'm going to make a motion (and it doesn't have to result in a vote - call it a suggestion if you like - I don't care if this is resolved by consensus or vote)...
How about we close the Buffy Spoilers Lite thread (because can be no more Buffy lite spoilers), and open a Firefly Over UK Thread. There will be no net change in the number of threads, so the anti-proliferationistas shouldn't be too bothered.
Once Firefly is out on DVD and everyone has had a chance to see all of the episodes as Joss intended, we can merge into one big happy Firefly thread.
Yeah, it may seem silly to open what will amount to a temporary thread. But is it sillier than displacing one discussion or another, or stifling one discussion to protect one group or another? It isn't to me. YSillyMV.
I think the simplest solution is Brit discussion moving to Spoilers, and Spoiler-inhabitants exercising restraint and/or whitefont.
Restraint/whitefont is a tried-and-true method for increasing the greater glee and screaming of the unspoiled, and it's only 1-2 weeks total, and then the Firefly Spoilers thread will means Thems as has seen everything, and the main Firefly thread will mean Thems as is waiting for the DVDs. And then, when the DVDs come, and everyone has had fair opportunity to see everything, Firefly Spoilers will be redundant and can be retired. Yesno?
An interpersonal whitefont workaround seems to me much less administrative hoo-ha than creating a whole new thread, e.g. But it does rely on the participants having a vested interest in Fay coming in and boldfonting her shock and joy. Which I think is an easy interest to vest.
Fay does make the best vests, and they're comfy to wear.
What Nutty proposes works for me (but, obviously, I'm on Fay's side of this; I'm sort of assuming that people quite like reading my "Oh, wow, shiny! Isn't this wonderful?!!!1!!!" posts, which may not be correct); but I could live with Cindy's answer, if it was done *soon* (this week. Today. Tomorrow. Not long enough to take it to a proper vote).