African or Asian goat? And do we follow kosher or halal rules?

dies laughing

Part of the nit-picking seems to be our nature, and part of it seems to be just learning the rules. i think when we get our reference adn quick ref page up, there will be a lot less confusion and picking of nits. i hope.

Why does voting have to start at night? Can't voting start at noon tomorrow or 2:00 p.m. tomorrow?

Betsy, the question was asked because Jon said voting would have to be tonight or tomorrow night. And he answered it by saying he only posts ballots at night. Simple question, simple answer. I'm sorry you were upset by it. But some might call what you just did nitpicking too.

Betsy, the question was asked because Jon said voting would have to be tonight or tomorrow night.

Yes. But my point is that that was not actually an important question in the context. There was no stake at risk. All that asking the question did was to extend the discussion. It was a nit.

But some might call what you just did nitpicking too.

What I just did may have been rude or personal (although I tried to avoid that), but it was a specific example used to demonstrate a general trend. How do you prove "Colors disturb me" without saying "That leaf is green, and I hate green"?

What are all these proposals that are ripping us apart, again?

It's not the proposal or result so much as the process, ita.

Somehow I liked it better when we talked about unnamed people being non-specifically disenfranchised than this, which not only gives name, rank and serial number but all the details of the offence.

I understand that some people think that voting is the one true way, and that when alternate paths to a "consensus gathering exercise" are mentioned they slap the "we voted to vote" card on the table.

But, I also see a lot of, what I would call, "significant Buffista" missing from these discussions. I know that is their decision, but I also know them to be strong, opinionated, concerned citizens of the island. And I can't see anything but the process being responsible for their absence.

Is it continued attempts to fix that are the problem, or not?

Me, I voted for voting, and I'd vote for it again.

However, it seems I take it a lot less seriously than some other advocates. I am *not* going to get het up about the minutiae. And I'm really going to try and avoid snipping at other Buffistas because of the process.

However, I feel that Buffistas are het up, and voting is just here.

I'm sorry, Wolfram. I shouldn't have used you as an example. That was rude.

Stepping off for a bit.

Frankly, I feel that if we didn't have a process in place (and keep in mind that it is still very new), folks would be nit-picking about other things. Except, that we'd have no way to end it because we'd never vote on it; we'd just keep talking in circles until one "side" gave up. That's how it used to be. I'll say it again: folks are really romanticizing the past. People were just as frustrated before. Maybe the frustratees is a slightly different group, but I don't think things were better before. I really don't.

Me, I voted for voting, and I'd vote for it again.

However, it seems I take it a lot less seriously than some other advocates. I am *not* going to get het up about the minutiae. And I'm really going to try and avoid snipping at other Buffistas because of the process.

This is where I am, too. I mean, it's an online forum -- we aren't exactly curing cancer.