I appreciate that Tim posting here makes it a special case, but wouldn't a Wonder Falls thread also honor him and be more in keeping with our pattern?

This is basically my position, but I'll wait until we get to actual discussion to expand.

I don't care which one we do first, but I'd rather not see them grouped together since they're really not related.

Multi-item fine with me.

Not meaning to shut you out, Lyra Jane, but I think that your concerns should go in lightbulbs when it opens, since the proposal received all of its secondsies.

Nutty, ita, I'm cool with whichever way people want to do things, I suppose. I'm leaning more towards ita's opinion, because it's easier to focus on one thing at a time.

But can I be obnoxious and ask why an all Tim, all the time thread?

LJ, no offense, but that question should wait for discussion. Allyson's gotten the four seconds and to debate the proposal's appropriateness here is contrary to the purpose of the discussion thread.

ETA: total xpost with brenda and allyson

There's a six month moratorium on stuff we've already decided, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away? What does that mean? Someone can propose that we rename the Phoenix, "Allyson's Diner?"

I don't think any of us need to go there. This way lies madness and despair.

Not meaning to shut you out, Lyra Jane, but I think that your concerns should go in lightbulbs when it opens, since the proposal received all of its secondsies.

Agreed -- I just didn't want to lose my thought! I'll copy and paste into lightbulb when the time comes.

This way lies madness and despair.

I'm already there. I'm Worst Case Scenario Gurl. What's the Worst Case Scenario? Can we live that? It's where I'm at, mentally, all the time. What's the worst thing that can happen if we make this decision?

To me, if all of our decisions turn to pumpkins at midnight, it's anarchy. Hey, where's Victor?

To me, if all of our decisions turn to pumpkins at midnight, it's anarchy.

They don't. Trust the Buffistas to have the minimum amount of good sense to decide which decisions can be re-discussed, and which are eternal.

They don't. Trust the Buffistas to have the minimum amount of good sense to decide which decisions can be re-discussed, and which are eternal.

Why?

If eternal yammering really is the true price of freedom, and if we can yammer long enough to render the grandfather clause proposal moot, then should we quietly sort of pretend we consensed over it? Like quietly allowing old men to keep their rent control until they die? Not like, with all the thread realignment I'm foreseeing, anything else (except emergencies) can get voted on in the next, oh, month.

Betsy, as proposer, I guess I'm sort of asking you whether you'd feel OK withdrawing Grandfather as almost unnecessary, so Allyson may proceed. Or anyway, I think I'm under the impression that it's almost unnecessary, so correct me if I'm wrong. What do you think?

Put it up in Discussion, and I'll withdraw it if we agree it's unnecessary. I'm uncomfortable unilaterally withdrawing it, because part of my impulse to withdraw is that I'm sick of the whole damned thing.