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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Allyson - May 16, 2003 10:43:55 am PDT #1945 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

getting. too. bogged. down. in. bureaucracy.


Cashmere - May 16, 2003 10:56:08 am PDT #1946 of 10005
Now tagless for your comfort.

I think we should put a limit on how long we wait for the Grandpappy proposal, say until Sunday

I'm leaving for vacation for four days starting Sunday. Does this mean this vote would take place in that time? Because it's one issue I feel I would like to vote on.

As for the other thread issue, I'm not especially concerned over missing a vote. I'll entrust myself to the will of the buffistas.

getting. too. bogged. down. in. bureaucracy.

wrod.


Deena - May 16, 2003 10:56:24 am PDT #1947 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

She may be waiting for Nutty or someone to post what were, exactly, the decisions made prior to voting so that we'd know what was being grandfathered. I believe that was supposed to happen this week.


Sean K - May 16, 2003 11:02:27 am PDT #1948 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Allyson, I was just thinking about this myself.

First let me say I'm really sorry. I was something of an ass with my obsitinance that we should finish previous business before we brought up the Minear thread.

But seeing as how the previous business is being delayed for various reasons, I say we should go ahead start in on Tim's thread.

If we're not ready to move forward on the business we're waiting on, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't move forward on business that's ready to go.

I don't know about anybody else, but I say Allyson posts her thread proposal and we open up lightbulb ASAP.


Jesse - May 16, 2003 11:06:41 am PDT #1949 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm leaving for vacation for four days starting Sunday. Does this mean this vote would take place in that time?

From the time of the official proposal, the process takes a week, so you would miss some of the discussion and some of the voting period, but not all of either.


Allyson - May 16, 2003 11:13:24 am PDT #1950 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Proposal: To add a new thread dedicated to the works of Tim Minear. The purpose of the thread will be to discuss past, present, and future series and episodes, and also to honor one of our own. Suggestions for thread title can be discussed in Bureaucracy if the proposed thread passes.


§ ita § - May 16, 2003 11:14:18 am PDT #1951 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Seconded.


Cindy - May 16, 2003 11:14:46 am PDT #1952 of 10005
Nobody

getting. too. bogged. down. in. bureaucracy.

Allyson, is that in general (and I agree) or in response to my suggestion? If you think my suggestion would make us even more bogged, let's take it off the table. It was proposed in order to de-bog, not bog us down further.

If we're not ready to move forward on the business we're waiting on, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't move forward on business that's ready to go.

Sean, thank you. I was thinking about something during your points last week, but didn't want to single you out, because you've been the least boggiest of anyone I can think of. I was thinking about how we're taking this voting thing too seriously.

Personally? I'm trying to remember, the spirit of this whole voting idea, was just to more accurately count who likes/dislikes what, and to make sure people were notified that a decision on issue X needed to be made. (This is personally why I voted against minimum vote totals, a higher majority, and a lot of stuff that passed, anyhow...)

I think we need to take it all less seriously, and if Allyson has an idea, is ready and has seconds, while Betsy has an idea, but is waiting for someone to list all the decisions that will fall under the grandfather clause, then Allyson (or anyone) ought to be able to go ahead with something that's already ready. Prior to voting, we've historically discussed more than one thing at a time in bureaucracy, and I hate to see a procedure make us nuts.


Cindy - May 16, 2003 11:15:15 am PDT #1953 of 10005
Nobody

Seconding Allyson's proposal.


askye - May 16, 2003 11:17:26 am PDT #1954 of 10005
Thrive to spite them

Thirding Allyson's proposal.