Gives Aimee her own personal, JZ-the-Body-Image-Demon slayer to follow her around and make affirming remarks about her t&a.

Any Buffista who gets a TV show gets a thread.

You mean one of us? Not a Mutant Enemy staffer/alumni?

Are any of us up for TV shows right now?

Okay, so Micheal hasn't asked to come back at this point? As far as anyone knows he's accepted to wait for another two months and then see what the decision might be?

Yup.

If that's true, then I think it was VERY inappropriate of Wolfram to bring it up.

All it did was stir up a kerfluffle yet again, to no real end.

That makes me angry.

My pride isn't stung in the least, Allison.

The fact that one of two holders of an unpopular opinion, has just been advised to leave (and about fifteen posts after the other had his almighty "social capital" waived over his head), causes something akin to nausea, however.

Are any of us up for TV shows right now?

Not to my knowledge, though several would certainly like to be.

I think it would be a good policy.

Okay. So. Resolved: There shall be no yelling in the Bureaucracy thread in future. Yes? Yes? It does nothing to help and everything to hinder civil conversation.

So. Next. Please (whoever) give us formal language (a proposal, a post in Press) on the pre-existing proposal or else tonight, when Allyson is ready, I think the Minear Thread Proposal will have to go forward. Onus is on the proposer or the person who wishes to revive it.

Onward!

Okay. So. Resolved: There shall be no insulting of holders of minority opinions Bureaucracy thread in future. Yes? Yes? It does nothing to help and everything to hinder civil conversation.

There shall be no insulting of holders of minority opinions Bureaucracy thread in future.

Fine, as long as "voicing an opposing opinion" isn't the definition of "insulting."

The fact that one of two holders of an unpopular opinion, has just been advised to leave

Trudy - where did this happen? Because I didn't see it and have been reading, not skipping or skimming. I'm wondering if there isn't a misunderstanding somewhere. The only suggestion I saw for anyone to go anywhere was Allyson's suggestion that Michael try another board in the interim (with "Mikey" being mieskie).

Also, Jon apologized to Wolfram and all he offended for the social capital remark.

Exactly. Wolfram -- Why didn't you ask Michael about the sitch before posting your social-capital-reducing plea?

Um, I did. Michael wants to come back. He'd love to come back. But he did not want to be the person who causes all these feelings. I posted this on my own accord because I wanted this issue addressed by the community. Michael did not go around asking Buffistas to post stuff on his behalf, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to come back.

And when it comes to social-capital I've resigned myself to being a spendthrift. People still think I'm the guy who wants to change the board (I don't), wants to revisit all the old issues (I don't), doesn't care who he hurts in his defense of a banned individual (I do), and pretty much can't let it go (I can).

Second---if he's willing to wait for two months then why are any of us talking about it?

Askye, Steph, everyone - telling Michael to wait two more months on a maybe is just not right. Either the issue is up for discussion in two months or it's not.

He doesn't want to wait one more day. He thought as I did that the suspension would be lifted after two months, and it wasn't. His email to the stompies was timed to approach that date and he was told to wait two more months and then maybe it can be brought up but probably not. That's a long way from, "wait two months and we'll discuss it".

But he did not ask me to spend social capital on this. He did not reregister so he could present his side. If you want to know if he's "willing" to wait, what choice does he have?

Wheeeeeeee! Just lifted from Beep me!

Announcement

Jacqueline Zahas and David Smay announce their engagement to be married.

Really. No kidding.

May, 2004.