Is he like the showrunner, or just a staff writer?

Showrunner.

Tim will be show runner/head writer for the series.

I think Tim should be exempt from the standard voting procedure, not just because I think voting is retarded, but because he's TIM.

He's ours, damn it.

Therefore, he should have a thread.

But it could be because the drink I had at lunch was hella strong, and I'm feeling it.

Sober here, and I think the same thing. Thread for Tim. I would say the same thing about any Buffista with a 13 episode series. Truly.

As much as I am in favor of thread for Tim, our process now is that threads are proposed and voted on. We decided to do it that way, and barring some sort of emergency, then that how we proceed. If Joss had a new series coming out, we'd have to vote on that, too. I'm not at all worried that a thread for Tim's new show wouldn't pass.

As far as the alumni go, I think we ought to handle their shows the same way we do Alias. Talk about it in Natter, until and unless interest starts to overwhelm the thread (a la LotR). For one thing, since they are writing episodes, not running the show, there will often be weeks where they'll have nothing to do with the episode being aired.

Those that think that Tim gets a thread, no questions asked, aren't going to be happy with any discussion on the subject. (It is, in fact, likely to be the actual discussion and not the points, that upsets them.) The people who "believe in the process" (no snark intended) are going to want a vote, on principle.

Is there a compromise?

42 Buffistas a quorum make.

Can we avoid the voting process if 42 people step up and say, Yes to an All Tim All the Time Thread?

Can we avoid the voting process if 42 people step up and say, Yes to an All Tim All the Time Thread?

Which is voting -- it's just not via our process.

What we could do is have a vote to agree that if any ME alumna becomes the producer/head writer/creator/star of another TV show that is the subject of significant Buffista discussion, that thread can be created without a vote.

Abslutey not. The whole point of having rules is that we follow them. I might vote for a Tim thread, when the time comes, but I'm absolutely opposed to having policy dictated for me. Even -- especially -- in benevolent ways.

Propose, discuss, vote: it works! If'n you all can wait till next Weds or Thurs. -- or later, says Sean, logically -- I will do a multi-proposition proposal. K?

Which is voting -- it's just not via our process.

I actually think it's a significant show of support, rather than a vote. But that may just be terminology.

Yes, we voted to vote. But I think that people are (to varying degrees) confused about the scope of that. And things that have been said during this discussion ("I thought threads were exempt" etc) illustrate this. Since I had to go look up the wording on the original ballot, I thought it might be useful to others who are trying to determine what it does and doesn't cover.

Sophia Brooks "Sunnydale Press" Feb 25, 2003 11:55:53 pm EST

Buffista Voting Proposal

This weekend, there has been a lot of discussion, both here and at the Contingency Board at WXing, over the decisions we make and how we make them. There has been some (but it's not unanimous) dissatisfaction over our usual method of determining consensus. Several people suggested we start voting on the big things. Funny thing is, it's such a hot topic, and there’s no way to determine whether or not we want to vote on things, without taking a vote on it. The lovely jengod has agreed to tally our votes, and so I give you a proposal.

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Item 1: VOTING

A yes vote on this item signifies the voter agrees that we should create a voting system for community decisions that do not require immediate action.

Exemptions: Thread naming, disciplinary action against trolls (although the process itself could come up for a vote at some point) and tasks currently performed by Stompy Feet, including but not limited to board maintenance.

A no vote on this item signifies that the voter does not agree to a voting process to determine the community's will as it pertains to community decisions.

There still seems to be a significant school of thought that think things are exempt. Just how much and what form of exemption seem to depend on which type of Buffistafishie you are.

Wonder Falls has already been given a 13-episode pickup. Source: TheFutonCritic.com

With all due respect, you should read the sidebar on that very page you linked to. The author themselves admits that nothing is solid until later this week.

As it is, my company did the post for the Wonder Falls pilot, and is bidding to do the post for the whole series, and we still do not know for sure. It was the subject of much discussion last week.

So, all respect to the Futon Critic, it is not a definite pickup.