I'm agreeing with the consensing people who have said yes.
Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.
'Serenity'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Deena - May 06, 2003 11:08:02 pm PDT #1389 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
Noumenon - May 06, 2003 11:57:43 pm PDT #1390 of 10005
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
I'm getting shellacked in there. It would've been a blessing not to have gotten the seconds.
After the second coat of shellac, we'll apply a layer of glaze.
over our eyes...
If we do decide that we can withdraw proposals without a vote at this stage, then I'd definitely say that the moratorium should not be in effect.
That's a problem with letting people have takebacks. If the consensus makes you think you'll lose, you'll want to withdraw so someone else can make a better proposal for the music thread next month. That's just like the old way -- propose something, chorus of nays, try it again later. This isn't a case of that, but takebacks would allow that.
Secondly (so to speak), I think it encourages seconders and proposers to take their roles seriously if they know a poorly-crafted proposal can sink their chances for six months.
Finally, allowing withdrawals opens up a third result for any vote: win, lose, or be pressured into withdrawing by Lightbulb posters. That again brings the old pile on back into the process. That's why I don't think we should allow a seconded proposal to be withdrawn, or amended to "Resolved: Trix Are For Kids."
brenda m - May 07, 2003 12:06:29 am PDT #1391 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
That's a problem with letting people have takebacks. If the consensus makes you think you'll lose, you'll want to withdraw so someone else can make a better proposal for the music thread next month.
Or, conversely, propose something and withdraw the proposal for an automatic moratorium...
I still don't like the idea of withdrawals, I think it misses one of the main points of voting - that you don't have to dominate the posting to have a say. As long as a withdrawal doesn't trigger the moratorium, I can live with it, I guess, but it wouldn't be my preference.
Jon B. - May 07, 2003 5:24:18 am PDT #1392 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Or, conversely, propose something and withdraw the proposal for an automatic moratorium...
That's a good point, Brenda. One would hope that no one here would be eeevil enough to do that, but why design a system to allow it? Better to not have a withdrawal trigger a moratorium.
Laura - May 07, 2003 5:30:12 am PDT #1393 of 10005
Our wings are not tired.
"Resolved: Trix Are For Kids."
Are not.
Wolfram - May 07, 2003 6:59:04 am PDT #1394 of 10005
Visilurking
SOMEone has a Tony the Tiger fetish. It all becomes clear now.
Are you calling me a frosted flake?
"Resolved: Trix Are For Kids."
Now I'm really sorry I skipped breakfast this morning.
DXMachina - May 07, 2003 3:26:43 pm PDT #1395 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I stomped a couple of clones.
Consuela - May 07, 2003 3:44:55 pm PDT #1396 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Clones?
Aims - May 07, 2003 3:47:37 pm PDT #1397 of 10005
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Jango and Boba Fett?
eta: I think same ISP address, new user name.
Consuela - May 07, 2003 4:29:24 pm PDT #1398 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Still confused. Clearly I'm not hanging in the right threads.