Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
I strongly agree with Ginger about simplifying the parameters of any given thread which, I think, also addresses David's point about fostering richer conversation than can be found in silos.
I actively seek spoilers and conversation about them, so I have no good solution for that issue in thread except for the methods I've seen already in place. Like when someone says something like 'I've jumped to the end of the thread/unsubscribed to avoid spoilers.
If the cocktail party analogy can be used for the community, the spoiler policy might simply be tied to choice. If you don't want to hear the discussion, change rooms.
ita used to give me the hardest time around whitefonting for sake of politeness when something had aired.
In general (not just due to this) I honestly felt like I could not win for losing when it came to the right time to say something...so I stopped posting until WELL after the conversation was either relevant or interesting...then I stopped altogether.
In the age of streaming, and being in a community that spans the globe, my sense of 'broadcast' is that it is always NOW somewhere in the world.
It's really too bad we don't have something like tumblr savior, it would solve the problem of white-fonting completely.
How does tumblr savior know what to block? Does it rely on the poster using appropriate hashtags?
bonny, I feel like that best way to address that sort of confusion is to have clear spoiler font policies that are adequate to cover what might be whitefonted "for politeness" as you say.
Unless what you are saying is that ANY spoilerfont requirements are too complicated and we should just not have any, in which case I disagree. Surely we want to have everyone who wants to be participating in any given thread, not sitting out because there is no way they won't be spoiled.
tumblr savior allows you to "black list" or "white list" words. For example, I black list the words NSFW or penis when I'm at work, because one of my favorite posters has one day of the week where all she posts is Sherlock porn. It collapses the post and says why it's blocked, which words you're filtering on. It can be in the tag or in the text, doesn't matter.
It can be in the tag or in the text, doesn't matter.
Cool. Thanks.
I like the idea of a Stan Lee-based MCU thread. With all of the overlapping plot lines and distribution methods, it's hard for me to track when and where I can discuss what. And with Marvel gleefully tossing access points out there like Johnny Appleseed (I figure a Groot show on HGTV is just a matter of time), it's only going to become more of a thing. And I agree that spoiler policy will probably need to evolve to reflect new media distribution and consumption methods.
Couple of questions as I am trying to write up the vote:
Do we envision streaming media to only contain material that is original to streaming?
Does MCU trump all other threads ( including movies)?
Does MCU include Just Marvel Cinematic Universe, not comics?
Philosophical question:
Our difficulty has been that there is no good way to solve the spoiler issue-- we can decrease the size of the buckets we put things in, which may cause the spoiler averse to post more, but may cause people who don't follow a lot of threads to post less. We can white font more, but people, especially on an phone, may post less because it is hard to read or the policy is confusing. We can make bigger buckets based on Genre rather than channel, but that makes the number of spoilers worse. The only wat to completely solve spoilers is a thread per show, but that reduces cross pollination to nothing Before crafting the ballot, I wish I had a sense of what was best.
Also, I think it is ironic that I am crafting this ballot, since the reason I supported voting was that I could not deal with the pro and anti proliferation fighting- it made me nutty cuckoo!
I don't think we can ever have a flawless spoiler policy, all we can do is minimize the risk.
It might benefit us to have a separate discussion on spoiler policy, outside of this current vote. For now, we could try the TV rules for TV broadcast shows and the movie rules for the movies. Maybe use the broadcast rules for things streamed an episode at a time on a weekly basis and the movie rules for things that are dumped at once. Then if we come up with a better all over policy we can apply it.
I like the idea of having a hall monitor for a thread.
...I'm not volunteering to be one, which I know is poopy of me. These papers are not gonna grade themselves, sadly.