My heart expands / 'tis grown a bulge in't / inspired by / your beauty effulgent.

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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Pix - Oct 09, 2011 2:29:51 pm PDT #9583 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Well since it is my proposal and all, I guess I’ll just say that my rationale is that I’ve seen a pattern over the past few years that when we start the process early, we tend to have a better turnout. I know some people can’t make plans so far in advance, but I think that the earlier we have a date on the calendar, the more likely we are to avoid booking anything else for that weekend (either business or personal) and have time to watch plane flights prices to get the best deal. Having 6+ months to save money helps. I also think it gives us more time to raise funds as a community so no one gets left with a big bill. We are all such busy people and many of us have families and personal situations that arise, obviously, but my hope is that by voting and booking early, we might be able to work around some of these. I know the year I arranged the NOLA F2F part of the problem was also overall costs (at the time, flights were pretty expensive) since we were only a few months out by the time we’d made final decisions.

I also think that if someone proposes a location and then has to back out due to personal issues--which again, is completely understandable--having voted and booked early will make it easier for someone else to take over the process.

I know that early booking isn’t going to solve everything and I think it’s natural that there are some years we will get a larger or smaller turnout based on uncontrollable factors, but this is my attempt to give as many people as possible the time to buy their tickets and book their rooms ahead of time.


Strix - Oct 09, 2011 2:31:40 pm PDT #9584 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I vote yay. Yea.


Typo Boy - Oct 09, 2011 5:38:11 pm PDT #9585 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think the upsides outweigh the downsides. Some people may get conflicts late, but that can happen even with a decision made at the last moment. Whereas with advance notice, some people will be able to avoid conflicts. I think it will help a lot more people attend than it will hurt. The latter number may even be zero some years.

Also (a tad off topic) I totally hope someone will pimp Portland, Oregon this year. Because POWELLS!


Typo Boy - Oct 09, 2011 5:38:12 pm PDT #9586 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Pix - Oct 09, 2011 8:10:56 pm PDT #9587 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Well it isn’t as big as Powells, but Vromans is pretty cool too! Largest and oldest independent bookstore in SoCal, and yep, it’s in Pasadena! [link] It has a pretty amazing philanthropic history, including:

During World War II, Vroman’s donated and delivered books to Japanese Americans interned at nearby camps, returning on several occasions despite being fired upon by camp guards.

Sorry. Back on topic. Ahem.


quester - Oct 10, 2011 3:45:09 pm PDT #9588 of 10289
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I vote yes


SailAweigh - Oct 11, 2011 1:29:55 pm PDT #9589 of 10289
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Being the Buffista procrastinator that I am, it took me a while to wander over and give my input.

Yes, IAW this proposal.


Pix - Oct 11, 2011 1:58:10 pm PDT #9590 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Who would be willing to count votes?


Jesse - Oct 11, 2011 2:25:29 pm PDT #9591 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I will.


Jon B. - Oct 11, 2011 2:28:57 pm PDT #9592 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Thanks, Jesse. ita -- Can you point votes@... to Jesse mail?