Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
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One thing - in Rolling Stone, Joss says Dollhouse will be his last TV show.
Impossible. The only other visual/serial medium that works for his kind of story-telling is comics. And he's said he can't do that full-time - it just doesn't pay well enough. If memory serves, he said he'd never work with Fox again too.
Relatedly, but of little evidentiary value, I think Stephen King told Rolling Stone several years ago that the last Dark Tower book would be his last book ever. That was 3 books ago?
My only issue with granting web-based shows their own threads is that so far, I haven't seen a web-based show built to last more than a few short episodes. Okay, there's Weebl and Bob, and in my heart there's always RadiSkull, but...
Impossible.
I think his intention is to boldly go all-web. I don't know if that will ultimately work, and really? I'm with you in finding his "Last TV Show" declaration to be as convincing as the Stones (or any other old fart rockers) saying they're never going to tour again.
But I don't think it's impossible.
My only issue with granting web-based shows their own threads is that so far, I haven't seen a web-based show built to last more than a few short episodes.
I think his intention is to boldly go all-web.
Combining these two points: I really think if Joss goes all-web, it won't be with a few short episodes. It will be a format with a continuing story-line like his tv shows. (If you tell me Dr. Horrible was a few short episodes, that was his experiment and even that is getting more life.) So I think he'll have definitely have TVesque shows, if not tv shows, that will garner identical discussions and, have the same need/demand for thread as current TV shows.
If you tell me Dr. Horrible was a few short episodes
I hope he does go all web and I hope he succeeds. I watched all of Dr. Horrible for free, and then bought it for myself within a couple of days. He made the sale, for me. The more he does it, the more likely it is to continue, and the more likely it is to push the quality of such endeavors by others. I think it's the wave of the future and I'm with him.
Here's a thought (please don't hit me.) What say, new thread for any webisodes planned to be 13 episodes or longer. Anything less goes in OM. I say 13, because in TV, at least, most initial orders are for 13 and if a show makes it through the first 13 it does tend to get picked up for more. I just don't see the point in opening a thread for something that is only 3-4 episodes long.
As Dr. Horrible Goes, So Goes My Nation.
Generally speaking, I think the distinction between web-based TV and TV that's pushed out by a network is already kind of pointless and bound to become more so. The real difference for future Joss-on-the-web shows is that they'll be episodic video storytelling (as opposed to, say, his funnybooks). It's not about whether you get it from iTunes or... get it from iTunes (U SEE WHAT I DID THAR?)
But none of that has anything to do with the question of a Dollhouse thread, about which I'm feeling uncharacteristically agnostic. And full of large words.
What say, new thread for any webisodes planned to be 13 episodes or longer. Anything less goes in OM. I say 13, because in TV, at least, most initial orders are for 13 and if a show makes it through the first 13 it does tend to get picked up for more.
Well... 13 episodes is about half a season for a normal
network
scripted show (it's a full season for most reality). I can see a couple of reasons why that might wind up becoming the standard
full
season on the web. Most of the cable scripted shows use 13 episode seasons, instead of the full 22 - 24. I can think of a couple of arguments that involve DVD production and distribution, but that's an automatically obsolete argument if you're discussing web shows.
If memory serves, he said he'd never work with Fox again too.
That's actually false. Everybody says that, but nobody can find the quote, and Joss used the DH press junket the other day to claim he never said that.
I think it's entirely possible Joss will return to TV at some point, but the original plan was for DH to be grandfathered after the first episode as Joss wants to work on features (Cabin In The Woods for MGM starts filming in three weeks).
Well... 13 episodes is about half a season for a normal network scripted show (it's a full season for most reality). I can see a couple of reasons why that might wind up becoming the standard full season on the web. Most of the cable scripted shows use 13 episode seasons, instead of the full 22 - 24. I can think of a couple of arguments that involve DVD production and distribution, but that's an automatically obsolete argument if you're discussing web shows.
My whole point (that I forgot to add) is to suggest 7 as a number, instead of 13. But unless and until Glamcookie decides to also address the webisode question, we're getting ahead of ourselves.