Both of the people we've suspended have come back within minutes and gotten themselves banned for it.
Do you have the suspicion that it would have turned out any different if it had been warn/warn/suspend/ban?
I don't see how it would have.
Let him do his thing, and then you get him out. No messing with him for laughs.
Mal ,'Ariel'
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§ ita § - Apr 16, 2003 12:30:06 pm PDT #880 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
bitterchick - Apr 16, 2003 12:33:16 pm PDT #881 of 10289
Do you have the suspicion that it would have turned out any different if it had been warn/warn/suspend/ban?
Oh I think it would have been worse. Prolonging the agony. On the other hand, maybe if we had two warnings, we could warn sooner? Not wait until we were literally at the end of our ropes to take that step because it wouldn't be so drastic. Plus people might fight less about warning if it wasn't one step away from suspension.
Jessica - Apr 16, 2003 12:36:37 pm PDT #882 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Do you have the suspicion that it would have turned out any different if it had been warn/warn/suspend/ban?
No no -- two warnings, then permanent ban was my suggestion. No suspension at all.
But if people disagree, I'm not going to push for it. It was just a thought.
Jon B. - Apr 16, 2003 12:36:46 pm PDT #883 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I think a three-step system is good, but our current second step seems pretty useless.
I agree with bitterchick re: prolonging the agony. And I don't think it's fair to extrapolate how every potential suspendee will behave based on two experiences.
Jessica - Apr 16, 2003 12:38:04 pm PDT #884 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
On the other hand, maybe if we had two warnings, we could warn sooner? Not wait until we were literally at the end of our ropes to take that step because it wouldn't be so drastic. Plus people might fight less about warning if it's wasn't one step away from suspension.
That was in my head as well.
§ ita § - Apr 16, 2003 12:38:38 pm PDT #885 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sorry for the misread, Jess t cleans glasses -- but I do think suspension can't hurt. It's been effectively three strikes within days, anyway.
Jon B. - Apr 16, 2003 12:40:48 pm PDT #886 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I think we should pass the current proposal and see how it works before changing other stuff along with it. Could be that the more formal system will make people less hesitant to wait until they're at the end of their proverbial rope.
Jessica - Apr 16, 2003 12:48:07 pm PDT #887 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think we should pass the current proposal and see how it works before changing other stuff along with it.
That sounds very sensible to me.
passes the tiny pink gavel back to msbelle
Cindy - Apr 16, 2003 1:33:55 pm PDT #888 of 10289
Nobody
bitterchick -- I want you to know I wasn't referencing any of those events. I am not sure I even knew about them. I am sure they weren't in my mind when I posted. I'm sorry that I came across as if that's what I meant.
Also, I wasn't being flip. I was exasperated and unfortunately that came through as flip. I'm sorry for that, too.
But the biggest corker, I was exasperated by a post elsewhere, didn't read your entire post (863) and thought you were advocating for Zoe, saying it was unfair to use threats she posted and/or linked to at PF, to keep her out of here. That was just sheer laziness on my part, and I'm really sorry for it.
(They slashed the roof of your car? Yikes! Psychos.)
msbelle - Apr 17, 2003 11:40:52 am PDT #889 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Can I be silly for half a second? I think it is warranted after so much tensiony ughness:
additional items for the ballot:
I believe ita to be a fluffy bunny. yes/no
msbelle is the nicest. yes/no
These of course will be followed up by:
Jesse always wears a cowboy hat. yes/no
Nutty has a cheese butt. yes/no
t /silliness
for now....