Oh lord, did you really just say that?
Are you suggesting different phrasing? Perhapse we should try it the other way?
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Oh lord, did you really just say that?
Are you suggesting different phrasing? Perhapse we should try it the other way?
Are you suggesting different phrasing? Perhapse we should try it the other way?
Let's put it to a vote!
Oh lord, did you really just say that?It's a time-saving device. Sometimes girls use those. It's just easier.
Let's put it to a vote!
And risk PREGNANC?!?!?!?
It's a time-saving device. Sometimes girls use those. It's just easier.
Just as well us guys are always willing to take our time.
And risk PREGNANCY?!?!?!?
Hey, it's ok. We can revisit in six months' time, right? Right?
I think Billytea had too much coffee today
The vote is scheduled to begin later today. We need final wording from MM, and a volunteer vote counter.
Jon- I can count
I think making changes should be doable and difficult. It's a good way to govern.
Yes. This.
And may I tell you, reading all the discussion on this topic in one go? Probably not the wisest idea I had. For one thing, I am now running late for work.
Here are my two cents on the matter, not that they're worth much in this economy:
Cent One: Whatever decision we make, someone is going to be unhappy with that decision. There's nothing that can be done about that. I wish there could, but there isn't. A solution that will make the board a better place for Poster 1 might effectively cut Poster 2 out of a discussion he or she would otherwise participate in. That situation can be created by making a new thread, and it can be created by deciding not to make a new thread. There is no easy answer; the best we can hope for is to minimize the pain.
Cent Two: I am not a preservationist, nor do I like having too many new threads. Personally, I like having a mix of bucket and non-bucket threads. I'm not 100% pleased with how some of those threads have been parsed out (I like talking about/reading others post about music, but not enough to keep on top of the music thread, and so I miss out. For example.).
Crap--I really do need to leave. I have more to say, but it will have to wait as b.org is blocked at work. Would suggestions for how to examine thread creation (in general) be best addressed here or in Bureacracy?
I have no idea what caused these splinter communities to happen, other than some of us just don't like others of us very much.
The way I see it is:
1: Underwater Basket Weaving Thread is voted into existance.
2: Underwater Basket Weaving fans from across the interwebs join B.org to discuss their favorite hobby but don't venture out further. UWB thread develops its own unique personality and subculture.
3: Since I don't have any particular interest in underwater basket weaving, I never bother to subscribe to that thread and have no way of knowing one way or another whether I'd like those people or not. Hell, if they never come out and post in Natter or some other broad-topic thread, I'll never know they exist at all.
And it's not me being petty and antiproliferationist that keeps me out of the narrow-topic threads, it's just that I have a limited amount of time and attention to spend here. I can't subscribe to everything I might want to, and the narrow-topic low-volume threads are the easiest to let go of first. (I used to subscribe to every single Buffista thread just on principle, and it just about broke me both mentally and emotionally. So these days I have to pick and choose, the better to preserve my sanity.)
I know you don't mean it as such, but that is the part that comes across as "I don't care what you want, I am against you for the sake of..." I don't know? What? Spite? I don't understand.
Oh hell, Sean, I am not against you. Or against MiracleMan or ND or anyone else who wants this or any other thread to exist or not exist. I like you all very much as people. I do not necessarily have to like each and every one of your ideas.
I am against willy-nilly thread creation and in favor of examining each new thread on a case by case basis to examine its potential effects on what I view this community to be. In this case, you have an interest in getting this thread created. And I'm sorry to be on the opposite side of that, but it is not personal and never has been.