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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


-t - Apr 18, 2008 6:51:42 am PDT #8440 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But I do think ita's suggestion would need to be implemented in a low-volume thread to work out.

Would it be crazy to, say, re-open the Book club thread for a limited and predetermined time (a month, six weeks, something like that) and use it as an experimental Gaming thread to see what kind of conversation happens? It's all very theoretical right now and it's hard to know what to think.

I would like to say that this is the first time I feel like I've really understood the heart of the anti-proliferation stance on a gut level, so revisiting and rehashing does have some value.


§ ita § - Apr 18, 2008 6:57:23 am PDT #8441 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Would it be crazy to, say, re-open the Book club thread for a limited and predetermined time (a month, six weeks, something like that) and use it as an experimental Gaming thread to see what kind of conversation happens? It's all very theoretical right now and it's hard to know what to think.

That's precisely not my suggestion. I want to see an attempt to discuss gaming without a dedicated thread fairly tried and failed. Then I'd think there might be a reason to have one. As is, I've seen nothing to convince me.


Aims - Apr 18, 2008 6:58:17 am PDT #8442 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

To answer bonbon's questions here:

But since Sean asked, when was the last time we actually denied a new thread?

I don't know if it was the last time, but 4 years ago (almost to the day, in fact) the politics thread got voted down.


Sean K - Apr 18, 2008 7:04:04 am PDT #8443 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I want to see an attempt to discuss gaming without a dedicated thread fairly tried and failed. Then I'd think there might be a reason to have one. As is, I've seen nothing to convince me.

This I do not understand at all. Why does conversation have to be broken out of existing conversation?

Don't understand at all.


-t - Apr 18, 2008 7:05:00 am PDT #8444 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I want to see an attempt to discuss gaming without a dedicated thread fairly tried and failed. Then I'd think there might be a reason to have one.

Yeah, I was just trying to think of where said discussion could happen since there are objections to Other Media and ended up with a completely different idea. I didn't do very well with the context placing.


Sean K - Apr 18, 2008 7:05:11 am PDT #8445 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I don't know if it was the last time, but 4 years ago (almost to the day, in fact) the politics thread got voted down.

Also, the plea for people to have a place where they can talk about BSG without being spoiled for Stargate has consistently fallen on deaf ears.


Aims - Apr 18, 2008 7:07:23 am PDT #8446 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

To expound on my previous post, this past August the Network Drama thread was denied. Perkins "Sunnydale Press" Aug 17, 2007 7:01:49 pm PDT


§ ita § - Apr 18, 2008 7:08:05 am PDT #8447 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why does conversation have to be broken out of existing conversation?

Huh? You're saying that you need a thread because of X--I'm saying I don't see X, please show it to me. That's all.

the plea for people to have a place where they can talk about BSG without being spoiled for Stargate has consistently fallen on deaf ears

Voted down != fallen on deaf ears. That's why we have a process, isn't it? Actually, was a BSG thread proposed and voted down? I know the sort of format ND prefers, but I'm not sure what action was taken in order to try and achieve it.


Connie Neil - Apr 18, 2008 7:09:48 am PDT #8448 of 10289
brillig

But since Sean asked, when was the last time we actually denied a new thread?

The TV Drama thread was denied last fall.

As for Amy's quotes of my post, I stand by them. Others will disagree with what I said, some will be upset. I know I should regret causing upheaval, but an honest thrashing out of an issue does not come about when everyone is being carefully polite with each other. When people fundamentally disagree on a situation, upset will occur. How we cope with that upset is what defines us as a community.


§ ita § - Apr 18, 2008 7:12:52 am PDT #8449 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

an honest thrashing out of an issue does not come about when everyone is being carefully polite with each other

While I don't think everyone can thrash without getting emotional I think that's a far cry from saying that no one can thrash honestly without impoliteness. Whyever should it be required?