Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Miracleman - Apr 17, 2008 4:12:18 pm PDT #8397 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Usually after said feline has decided to subject war-torn Western Europe to closer scrutiny, and possibly territory marking.

That reminds me of this one time playing Risk; I had just moved a gazillion troops up from Australia into Asia and just then the house kitty, Stalin, decided to jump on the table from the north, knocking all my guys and many of a couple other players askew. Europe was all a-jumble...

...oh, but I digress and threaten to overwhelm this thread with my gaming jibba jabba.

(OW! Goddamn it, I just bit my tongue again. Must remember to occasionally remove from cheek.)


Scrappy - Apr 17, 2008 4:19:40 pm PDT #8398 of 10289
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

The baseball talk reminds me why I am cautious about specific subject proliferation. One of my very favorite things about B.org is the chance to learn about other people's passions. I don't game or do Flash animations or do Krav, but I love learning about them through smart, idle chit-chat as the talk turns to them. If gamers have their own thread, that talk will go there, and I will lose the chance to hear about it in Bitches or wherever.


billytea - Apr 17, 2008 4:20:51 pm PDT #8399 of 10289
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

...oh, but I digress and threaten to overwhelm this thread with my gaming jibba jabba.

Jeez, save your pickup lines for... well, probably the grand jury.

So. Gaming thread. I likes it. Proliferation doesn't bug me, I already picture this place as a nerdhole in a hub-and-spoke model.

Remind me, how long till the board rolls its Will save votes?


Sean K - Apr 17, 2008 4:24:20 pm PDT #8400 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Scrappy, I not only get the argument when put just that way, but I even empathize strongly with it. You are ever wise.

That being said, I still like and want a gaming thread, and I think we'd certainly be welcoming to all comers.


NoiseDesign - Apr 17, 2008 4:40:13 pm PDT #8401 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

there was this total assface playing a Ranger and he did the dumbest shit ever...

Wait, I think I know who you are talking about!

As for the discussion at hand, I feel like I threw in the towel years ago. I'm spoiler phobic, this is what I bring up all the time. Multipurpose threads work about as well as a square wheel does for me. I don't go in Other Media because I'm slowly reading the Other Media that is contained therein and don't want to be spoiled. I gave up on discussion SF on b.org so long ago that half the time I forget that it's actually discussed here. I have deeper discussions about it with my grocery store checker at this point.

From my perspective the multipurpose threads have hurt my sense of b.org community over and over again. Yes, I'd love to talk gaming here. If it happens great. If not, I'll probably just stick with IM discussions about it.


Consuela - Apr 17, 2008 5:49:11 pm PDT #8402 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Hmm. I am... on the fence.

I'm hypothetically antiproliferation, as I understand that there are, in the end, infrastructure issues with endless thread proliferation--not to imply that this is the Beginning of the End or any such thing.

I have not noticed either gaming talk taking over other threads, or failing at conversation at other threads. But then since I'm blocked at work, I usually just hang out in Boxed Set, SPN, Fic, and Literary these days anyway. I would have expected gaming to show up in Other Media, as I consider Games a Media. In fact, I'm surprised it hasn't.

It does appear that, in general, a new thread will serve to generate conversation, but there also needs to be enough of a subpopulation already on the board to sustain it. Is six, eight, twelve Buffistas enough to sustain a thread on games and gaming? I dunno: how many people post regularly in SPN? Twelve, maybe? Which I guess answers my question.

I suspect that, as this isn't primarily a gaming board, creation of a gaming thread won't result in hundreds of new posters and lots of extra strain on the board. I also suspect that everyone in this thread that I've seen speak in favor of the new thread is someone who's often spotted participating in other threads on non-gaming topics.

So, if we're not going to put a big strain on the board infrastructure, and we're not sucking social engagement away from more general-interest threads, I'm in favor.

Of course, if we start it, and in six months there's only a hundred posts, I suspect someone's going to want to bring this back to the table.


Cass - Apr 17, 2008 7:27:29 pm PDT #8403 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

And I'm against threadsprawl in the first place, as it does feel like our increased sprawl has impacted the feel of community in a negative sense.
I agree with Plei.

It... actually happened just recently, when Boxed Set got overwhelmed with Supernatural talk, and the latter was split off. And while I won't deny there were some hurt feelings in the middle there, it all worked out and I think everyone's happy now.
Personally? I got over it, but it very much changed my interactions on the board and elsewhere. I loved being in Boxed Set but I haven't been back since that happened.

Please don't go there.
And, yeah, ita's point is good. It's the past and I am a much happier Buffista when I leave it there.

but there also needs to be enough of a subpopulation already on the board to sustain it.
This is a concern for me, along with the fact that the more we sprawl, the more we limit conversations. I like the larger threads because I am exposed to things I would never even think of seeking out in a dedicated thread.


Consuela - Apr 17, 2008 8:14:19 pm PDT #8404 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I loved being in Boxed Set but I haven't been back since that happened.

My issues with Boxed Set have more to do with the fact that it's mostly Torchwood/DW talk these days, and I don't watch the one and can't be bothered to ahem the other. I am hoping that we'll get some lively Sarah Connor Chronicles talk there in the fall...

... but that's all beside the point.

I like the larger threads because I am exposed to things I would never even think of seeking out in a dedicated thread.

See, I don't think I'm missing anything by having a gaming thread, because I don't think I've ever seen gaming conversation in Natter or anywhere else. Or if I did, it was in such small quantities as to be indistinguishable from the background natter. In which case, no net loss to the community, imo.


Deena - Apr 17, 2008 8:32:48 pm PDT #8405 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I don't get to hang out here much anymore, but I did used to talk to Gudanov about computer RPGs in Bitches. We were on at different times, though, and there was so much other stuff in between it was difficult to sustain a real conversation. I would have liked to really dig in and talk about the games with him instead of mostly just finding out he likes a lot of the same ones I like and how cool that was.

Having said that, of course, I don't do much in the way of board games, or pen and paper RPGs or game systems, and I don't have much time on the board anymore, so I doubt I'd be very active in the thread anyway (though I might finally convince my husband to join the board).

(MM, insent to your profile addy.)


Laga - Apr 17, 2008 8:40:56 pm PDT #8406 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I am hoping that we'll get some lively Sarah Connor Chronicles

I'd love to be able to talk about SCC with buffistas but because I'm always a season behind in Who and Torchwood I don't dare venture in Boxed Set.