Wesley: Feng Shui. Gunn: Right. What's that mean again? Wesley: That people will believe anything. Actually, in this place, Feng Shui will probably have enormous significance. I'll align my furniture the wrong way and suddenly catch fire or turn into a pudding.

'Conviction (1)'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Oct 29, 2007 5:32:52 am PDT #8039 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Unless Aimee posts otherwise, I'm assuming the text of her proposal is:

Once the current Firefly thread has reached it's 10,000th post, we will discontinue the thread. Firefly discussion will then take place in whatever thread it lands.

Yes

No

No Preference

We need someone to volunteer to count votes. Preferably someone not very vested in the results.


Nilly - Oct 29, 2007 5:37:57 am PDT #8040 of 10289
Swouncing

Skimming to the end (I'm still catching up) to post that if there's a need for somebody to count the votes, then I'm volunteering for it.

[Edit: x-post with Jon]


Jon B. - Oct 29, 2007 6:17:13 am PDT #8041 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Thanks, Nilly.

ita -- Can you do the votesy-pointsy thing?


Aims - Oct 29, 2007 6:32:15 am PDT #8042 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Unless Aimee posts otherwise, I'm assuming the text of her proposal is:

If noone has any other suggestions, then yes. That is the text of my proposal.


Kat - Oct 29, 2007 6:38:42 am PDT #8043 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Aimee, as ever, I'd argue against having No Preference. I still either people need to choose a preference or not vote if they truly have no opinion.


Jon B. - Oct 29, 2007 6:44:49 am PDT #8044 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

As ever, I'd argue that if people want to vote no preference, thus putting this issue to rest for six months, then they should be allowed to. If you don't care, don't vote.


Kat - Oct 29, 2007 6:56:50 am PDT #8045 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I guess, Jon, the thing is, we don't shut up for 6 months. We shut up about a specific thread. But we don't shut up about the underlying disagreement.

For me, Firefly is a prime example. I don't give a shit at all about whether or not there is a Firefly thread, except to say that the way the discussion has played out here really pushes me towards one perspective.

But I do care about the underlying issue of the strum und drang of threads opening and closing. And if only 3 or 15 people vote real votes and the rest vote no preference to shut people up.... well, that doesn't resolve what I see as the underlying issue nor really shut people up.


Aims - Oct 29, 2007 7:01:39 am PDT #8046 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Frankly, I'm with you, Kat. I, presonally, don't like the No Preference. Either Yes or No or don't vote.

I thought it was a requirement (so to speak) for ballots. Is this not the case?


Nilly - Oct 29, 2007 7:11:28 am PDT #8047 of 10289
Swouncing

Is this not the case?

Nope. We had ballots in the past without it (for example Jon B. "Sunnydale Press" Mar 5, 2003 12:00:05 am PST ). It's up to the person who phrases the proposal.


Jon B. - Oct 29, 2007 7:16:17 am PDT #8048 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Frankly, I don't think it will make a difference this time around, just like it hasn't made a difference for any of the primary questions on any of our ballots. Whatever. I'll remove it.