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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


NoiseDesign - Oct 28, 2007 10:51:48 am PDT #7967 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

maybe the vote should include a "doesn't matter either way" type of choice. I am curious how many don't care either way. Of course, if that gets the most votes, then what do we do?

There is a system for this, most votes include "no preference" but there is yet another fun difference of opinion at b.org about if the "no preference" vote helps. I'm in the camp that would rather see people who don't care, not vote. If not enough people vote then we don't meet a quorum and the issue is sent back into discussion. If we do a "no preference" that can bump the quorum up to the minimum even if 35 votes are "no preference" and 4 are no and 3 are yes. The 4 no's win. The reason I'm in the camp that doesn't like this is that this in turn tables the discussion for 6 months. If a vote doesn't meet a quorum then it can immediately go back into discussion and be proposed in an altered form.


omnis_audis - Oct 28, 2007 10:56:32 am PDT #7968 of 10289
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

my god. I had no idea there were such detailed rules. Is there any filibuster provisions?


Jesse - Oct 28, 2007 10:58:31 am PDT #7969 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The infamous "cheesebutt" document runs down the voting process: [link]


Kevin - Oct 28, 2007 11:07:50 am PDT #7970 of 10289
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I should clear something up - I was in no way suggesting upthread the Buffy/Angel topics should actually be closed. As with omnis_audis, I was just using it as an example.


Pix - Oct 28, 2007 11:08:54 am PDT #7971 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

And to give credit where credit is due, the original Phoenix boarders worked their asses off to craft these rules, and I believe that they're one of the main reasons b.org isn't like "those other boards" out in internet-land.


omnis_audis - Oct 28, 2007 11:20:02 am PDT #7972 of 10289
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I agree KT, and the fact that this board is as it is is what makes it great. Huge applause to them. Even if FF is let run out, I'm not gonna leave in a huff. I've grown to love the board and it's peoples. (Grammar Police, please, these aren't the words you are looking for ::Jedi two finger wave:: )

Now reading the Law-speak, and I have to say, I think this is the first time I have truly seen "42" the answer to a question. I am *DYING* over here. LOVE IT. Also, very much agree the last item on the voting checklist "Everybody takes a nap."


justkim - Oct 28, 2007 11:45:36 am PDT #7973 of 10289
Another social casualty...

I'm curious as to why no compromise has been suggested. It seems that at least part of the angst is being caused by the fact that closing the topic/not opening a new thread has been proposed with less than 100 posts to go.

Whether a person agrees with the reasoning or not, there are people who are attached to the thread. What is being proposed is essentially ripping off the band aid/unravelling the beloved sweater with no real warning. Sometimes people want to be prepared for the things that will hurt.

What if a the thread were continued for one last stand, 10,000 posts guaranteed, and at the end of that thread, the topic would be closed permanantly. That would give the users time to do a watch-and-post, arrange an on-line Shingdig/wake, etc. Give them time to organize and grieve and move on in one form or another.


omnis_audis - Oct 28, 2007 11:52:14 am PDT #7974 of 10289
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

The infamous "cheesebutt" document runs down the voting process: [link]
Is that link found on any big page? I couldn't seem to find it in the FAQ or anywhere.


Laga - Oct 28, 2007 11:52:43 am PDT #7975 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think that's a brilliant idea, justkim. Could the vote be edited the day before or would the quorum have to fail and a new vote be opened in order to consider this option?


NoiseDesign - Oct 28, 2007 11:55:44 am PDT #7976 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

At an average of 1000 posts a year, isn't that a 10 year extension on the thread?