I'm all for killing off threads with slower activity than 1000 posts a year, but if you want to make an argument why Firefly is different from those, those threads had evergreen subjects, whether fic, Minear shows, premium tv or whatever. This one is about something that is fixed and done.

I agree that it seems like the majority of recent posting is more about FF fandom than FF.

I do have to say I'm getting weirdly defensive at people actually saying the kind of "you should have your own thread so you don't sully ours with your nasty show" stuff about FF that SPN folks were perceiving in that discussion. Some are more serious than others, I think, but it's a line of argument that I really have no sympathy with.

I agree that it seems like the majority of recent posting is more about FF fandom than FF.

And when the SPN watchers did that (arguably), they got their own thread.

Not the same thing. I don't mean FF posting is about fic or stuff like that. I mean it (seems) to be largely "this is what was posted on some other board today".

(And, speaking for me only, I don't see the FF and SPN issues as being more than peripherally related.)

I don't think that was why the Supernatural thread was created. I don't see the relevance in comparing the two threads. Spn is an ongoing show that generates a lot of discussion.

And when the SPN watchers did that (arguably), they got their own thread.

No. Whether it was a true issue or not, the perceived issue there was too much SPN. Here, it's too little.

I know it's a recent wound, and still a sore spot for a lot of us -- it's still a very sore spot for me, even though I'm apparently totally SPN-immune in both the loving and hating directions. But it's a bad analogy for the current debate, and I don't like to see "but it still sucks about that other kerfuffle!" when the analogy doesn't work. Because, you know, the whole "should we have a natter thread?" thing is still an active memory, and before long we're on to "this television! it rots your brain! you shouldn't do that!"

(man, massive x-post should teach me to stop listening to myself talk.)

I was speaking to the discussion of FF fandom. I possibly misunderstood what brenda's point was.

If we do open a new thread, closing it after 400 messages or whatever would seem less organic to me.

To me, stopping at a number that was created for technical reasons seems a lot less organic than stopping when the people who are participating actually want to do so.

Catching up from long day at work.

if we do decide to open the next thread, it might be fun to start with a group rewatch of the show or movie. That would give the thread a nice jump start and get it past the initial low numbers so it doesn't feel so sad to others.

I don't understand the logic here. It's reaching 10,000 posts because people have been using it. There are other threads that will never reach 10,000 because they are rarely used. Using 10,000 as the decision point ensures that you will kill off threads that get modest use long before you kill off threads that get almost no use. Why is that a good idea?

Yes this too! If we hit that magic mark, doesn't that show activity? Sure Bitches has more activity on a sunny weekend, but 1,000 posts/year is an average of 3 per day. That is some activity. It might not be the race horse it once was, but it sure seems like the old trail riding horse that lets you enjoy the sunny day in the countryside. A nice place for shiny thoughts.

What if we instead say, if it doesn't hit 500 new posts by summer solstice, then talk of closing, rather than closing it just because it came to the end of the 10,000 thread limit.

To me, stopping at a number that was created for technical reasons seems a lot less organic than stopping when the people who are participating actually want to do so.

What I was trying to say is that picking an arbitrary number and saying if it isn't reached in some arbitrary period of time we will kill the thread, that process is what feels wrong to me. If we don't close it now, I would prefer that we either decide to keep a Firefly thread forever or leave the question of when to close it open and just say not now.

Reaching 10,000 forces us to make a decision. I think that decision should be based on current circumstances, not hypothetical future circumstances and I strongly feel that the actions we take should be takeable immediately, not some sort of decision making cascade triggered by conditions that we pull out of the air.