Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Pix - Jul 25, 2007 10:37:23 am PDT #7498 of 10289
The status is NOT quo.

I'm here for Bitches, Natter, and Minearverse primarily. I wish I could talk about the Boxed Set shows with my friends here, but since I'm one of the ones who can't keep up, that is what it is. But I'm here for the people, mainly.

I agree with Kat that there seems to be pressure to make this site a TV site. I neither like nor get it, myself.
Honestly, I don't think that most people who are advocating for TV threads are doing so because they want to make it more of a TV board. I think that we come here because we care about each other. We already value the people here and have been talking about TV with each other for a long time, after all. IMO, the debate isn't really whether or not we should talk TV (because hello, Buffistas), but how that discussion should happen.

As for me, I'll keep on posting in the non-TV threads and loving this community regardless of the outcome of the bucket/no bucket debate.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 25, 2007 10:42:41 am PDT #7499 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think brenda says is pretty much how I feel about things. I think the current shaking out of TV threads is a part of the continuing "where do we go from here?" process post-Buffyverse. It took longer to build steam than I had expected (I thought this might have gotten hashed out a year or two ago, but it never really did), but I think that's what's happening.


bon bon - Jul 25, 2007 10:50:07 am PDT #7500 of 10289
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm here because of natter and to me it seems like a critical mass of tv threads directly bleeds natter. I don't expect this board to be all things to me that I like discussing. Even if I could identify three or four people who were into the exact same thing as me, I wouldn't want that thread.

This may not be helpful at all, but would it help people to have a better search function for threads? If possible?


Connie Neil - Jul 25, 2007 12:36:15 pm PDT #7501 of 10289
brillig

would it help people to have a better search function for threads?

It's not so much finding the references to Bones, but if that reference to Bones is 200 posts back and the conversation has since moved on to what an asshole someone's ex is being and how someone is legitimately in fear for life and/or limb, it feels pretty gauche to suddenly say, "Oh, by the way, wasn't that neat how Angela and Hodgins ran out of their wedding?"


Burrell - Jul 25, 2007 12:37:34 pm PDT #7502 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Honestly, I don't think that most people who are advocating for TV threads are doing so because they want to make it more of a TV board.

But isn't that the likely outcome of creating lots of tv threads?

And for completely me-centric neurotic reasons, this is rubbing the wrong way coming off that highly contentious SPN thread discussion. I just wish things could have been left alone for a while.


quester - Jul 25, 2007 5:19:42 pm PDT #7503 of 10289
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I formally propose a Broadcast Drama bucket thread, to include shows like House and Bones and CSI and Greys Anatomy etc.

Yes, please.


aurelia - Jul 25, 2007 7:48:41 pm PDT #7504 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The Network Drama experimental thread did not work for me. I pretty much only watch drama and I'd love to discuss several shows, but I'm never caught up on all of my shows at the same time.

I still like the idea of smaller, topical bucket threads for the types of shows most popular around here (I thought the experimentals were for figuring out what those shows are) but I'm against recreating the experimental thread.


Allyson - Jul 25, 2007 7:54:03 pm PDT #7505 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Do we have enough users to sustain this many threads?

How does all the thread creation effect the maintenance of the board? I mean, is it more of a pain in the ass for stompies?

Is there any sort of breaking point where there are Too Many Threads?

If so, what is it?


Kat - Jul 25, 2007 8:05:25 pm PDT #7506 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And if there is a breaking point, what is it technically? And what is it socially?

I clearly feel like this is a totally moot point and we'll end up with new threads galore because it's extremely easy to get things approved. So I am sure that in a week or two we'll have a proposal for a comedy thread and so on and so on and so on.

It makes me sad because I've reached the point where it's clear that those of us who are against rampant thread creation and proliferation are just drowned out on a consistent basis and we may as well just shut the fuck up, because what's the point?

Which is the place, for me, where we've already begun to break socially.


Connie Neil - Jul 25, 2007 8:26:36 pm PDT #7507 of 10289
brillig

Do we have enough users to sustain this many threads?

The reality thread seems to be booming, so there seem to be enough users for that. We've discarded threads that were underutilized before. Yes, that makes the board possibly more fluid and dynamic than some may like, but the system's in place and has worked in the past.

Personally, I don't go into the Music or Movie threads. Their presence doesn't bother me in the least, I don't feel any social lack at their presence.

We can't keep everything in Natter anymore. It's like trying to have a satisfying party with everyone crowded in one room and trying to have a conversation over everyone else. People will always pull each other over to the side to be able to concentrate on the conversation they're having, both to be able to focus and to keep from bothering everyone else. After the conversation is done, they go back and mingle with the bigger group.

Yes, things will happen off to the side that may get missed. That happens in busy places. If the main venue of interaction, ie, Natter, gets too overwhelming for the conversations that want to happen, then people will go somewhere else--and it might be someplace utterly different.

It may not be thread proliferation, it may be user proliferation, more people wanting to talk about the same things we always have, not the same people wanting to talk about more things. Five people discussing cats is a whole different dynamic from thirty people discussing cats (numbers and subjects off the top of my head). The sound level will eventually rise so far that nobody will be able to hear anything other than passing fragments.