I've never understood what media fannish is. It is starting to look like I am far from in the minority on this.

Unless all the people who are talking about SPN unsub from Boxed Set, where the rest of the discussion is taking place, and only talk about all their shows in an SPN thread, what you are suggesting seems very unlikely to me.

I'd unsub. I'm not actively watching anything else discussed in thread and there are only so many hours in a day. Realistically, I'd have no reason to be there until another broadcast show tickles my fancy. I'm not going to pop into BS just for a digression on Dark Angel that might occur to me when thinking about something with SPN. I just won't.

To me, it seems it would be different in tone as well as content. Maybe it doesn't to others. Maybe as it works out, it wouldn't to me either. I don't know. In any case, different does not equal wrong.

Yep. I mean, to go back seriously old school, the tone of Bitches changed when the fic split off into its own thread. Didn't break it, but it did change it. It happens. Smallville and DS rolling in with FS (which was a different thread in origin and tone than Smallville and DS, which were children and grandchildren of the WX Bitches threads) changed the feel so that there were more generalist overtones to the discussion in the resulting Boxed Set.

Seems like removing SPN removes the last traces of that Smallville and DS feel from the thread.

Here are the shows we might be discussing there, if they take off, or catch our fancy: Sarah Connor Chronicles, Vampire/Detective show I can't remember the name of, Bionic Woman, hell, I think there's even some new B5 thing coming out, right?

There are a lot of sci-fi/fantasy-ish shows coming up this season on broadcast TV. The full list, I think, is: Pushing Daisies, Moonlight, New Amsterdam, Sarah Connor Chronicles, Journeyman, Reaper and (possibly) Chuck.

Seems like removing SPN removes the last traces of that Smallville and DS feel from the thread.

Or puts it back to they way it was in the first place.

I've been looking at the original conversation in this thread that created Boxed Set four years ago, and it's kind of prophetic, mostly about the different ways the Due South and Smallville dealt with their shows versus how the Farscape folks did, and how that would change things for both groups.

I've been looking at the original conversation in this thread that created Boxed Set four years ago, and it's kind of prophetic, mostly about the different ways the Due South and Smallville dealt with their shows versus how the Farscape folks did, and how that would change things for both groups.

Link goes to heated discussion of Spoiler Fonts.

D'oh. Fixed.

I'll note that it was a small part of a big proposal, so there is a lot of jumping around.

Link goes to heated discussion of Spoiler Fonts.

Good times, man. Good times.

Let's say, hypothetically, that there was a show, let's call it "Shmoopernatural"

Actually, I think that's its title already.

It hadn't occurred to me that "where goes this one TV show so goes the mediafannish discussion" but I suppose that might be true. And it also hadn't occurred to me that people don't know what I mean when I say media fandom because I know this has come up in regard to the Boxed Set thread 3-4 times -- in Bureaucracy, not in Light Bulbs, but it has definitely come up before.

Media fandom is a set of subcultural practices that occur in regard toward a source text (usually a TV show). The ways media fandom show up most obviously are in fanfic and vids; in-depth discussion; and an assumption of shared source texts (i.e., even though I've never seen a single episode of Due South, I know a lot about the show, because it is part of my subculture). It is totally possible to participate in an in-depth discussion with media-fannish people and not know it, because media-fannish people can code-switch just as easily as anybody else, and it's not necessary to whip out all the media-fannish shibboleths just to prove that an in-depth discussion is in-depthy enough.

Given our historical respect for subcultures within threads, I think that should be a factor in voting. (Granted, this particular subculture is also happily ensconced elsewhere, e.g. LJ, but I do think enough Buffistas are mediafannish that we want to keep that subculture a part of the board somehow.) Given that a lot of people think that the mediafannish discussion will follow wherever the biggest mediafannish text is, I suddenly have no idea how to vote.

OK, I think Nutty's post confused me even more. It's definitely not her fault, it's mine...

*waits for more people to say more things*

Hrm. I think that's a whole lot of subtext for a thread.