Just FYI, I'm off to the airport and away for work the next couple of days, so I won't be around to answer questions or respond or anything, but I'll catch up as soon as I'm back toward the end of the discussion period.
Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.
Mal ,'Serenity'
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brenda m - Jun 18, 2007 12:49:50 am PDT #6830 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Strega - Jun 18, 2007 6:13:57 am PDT #6831 of 10289
The Dead Zone also seems like it should go in Boxed Set to me.I agree, but so far I haven't seen anything that will prevent the new/revised thread from from overlapping with Boxed Set. Dead Zone is an original drama for cable. So is The 4400. So is Galactica.
Monique - Jun 18, 2007 6:20:10 am PDT #6832 of 10289
haven't seen anything that will prevent the new/revised thread from from overlapping with Boxed Set. Dead Zone is an original drama for cable. So is The 4400. So is Galactica.While I agree with this in general principle, in practice, I'm going to end up finding it confusing if a line isn't drawn.
Strega - Jun 18, 2007 6:26:17 am PDT #6833 of 10289
Oh, me too. That's why I'm a bright-line booster.
esse - Jun 18, 2007 4:08:07 pm PDT #6834 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
You know, it might be worth revisiting the genre-lines divisor. Something like Procedurals, etc, that a couple people made up back in April. I mean, I'd still prefer to have Cable Drama in Premium; but we could always suggest another genre-type thread.
Monk and Psych ride the line for me, which is why I called them dramedies. They are primarily dramas, to me, that are designed to be funny, too. I wouldn't go to a Comedy bucket to talk about Psych, definitely not.
I think, though, that this is kind of like a Daily Show/Colbert thing. The discussion will pop up where it pops up, and will stick wherever it seems to fit. Bright lines are all well and good, but not everything in television (or life!) fits into a bright, clear lines. And I don't think it has to.
Still, it's worth reiterating the difference between CABLE DRAMA and CABLE ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING, and while it's up to Brenda whether she wants to make the distinction, I think that's the best Bright Shiny Line there could be--where Original Programming is the catchphrase, not Drama. Drama is not bright at all. Drama is like a French brothel hazy with cigarillo smoke. Drama is a dim bulb in a room full of halogens. Drama is like an umbrella that only works for giants that hold up planets, and are not nearly small and focused enough to keep the rain off human heads.
Please to be making sense now? Hello, two am. The hour of mixed and incohate metaphors/analogies/thingies with words.
Jon B. - Jun 18, 2007 5:33:21 pm PDT #6835 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
"Cable Original Programming" would include South Park, Daily Show/Colbert, Adult Swim, etc. I don't think that was the intent at all, but (like SA says) when Brenda gets back she can make the call.
Laga - Jun 18, 2007 6:05:31 pm PDT #6836 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I'd love a thread where discussion of Venture Brothers was as welcomed as discussion of Monk. The only distinction that matters to me is premium vs. non because I am one of the poor kids who has to wait for stuff like The Sopranos to come to Netflix.
Strega - Jun 18, 2007 7:37:52 pm PDT #6837 of 10289
As Jon B. pointed out, "original programming" is an even wider net than "drama" is, so I'm not sure how that helps. In fact, "cable original programming" would have a lot of overlap with the new Non-Fiction TV thread.
Bright lines are all well and good, but not everything in television (or life!) fits into a bright, clear lines. And I don't think it has to.
Then any new threads are unusable for me, since I can't guess which threads are safe, and which might contain spoilers for the handful of shows I watch. If I stick to Natter, I am at least guaranteed whitefont.
If it's just me, that's fine. And I realize that sounds passive-aggressive but I do mean it; since I only watch a few shows, it isn't that big a deal to me personally. If it's me and two other people, I'd still say go with it. But at some point, you're alienating as many posters as you're attracting. If the goal is to encourage conversation, that seems like an issue.
Monique - Jun 18, 2007 7:47:08 pm PDT #6838 of 10289
If it's just me, that's fine.As one probably could have easily guessed by my earlier posts, it's not just you. I see not point for dividing threads up by genre if shows will be popping up here and there anyway. Especially if the threads' spoiler font rules are voted on separately as they pop up.
§ ita § - Jun 18, 2007 9:43:39 pm PDT #6839 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yeah--if all discussion is in whitefont in eternity, then it doesn't matter where it happens. But for me, say, why I never asked Deadwood questions in Premium is because my primary motivation is avoidance. Firstly I want to not be spoiled for things I haven't watched yet. Secondly I want to discuss things I have watched, and thirdly and quite distantly I don't want to be distracted by talk of things I will never watch.
Bright lines are appreciated most strongly for #1.