May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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brenda m - Jun 17, 2007 12:26:35 pm PDT #6818 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Have we ever seriously discussed having just a drama thread? (I can't remember doing so, but I'd welcome links that prove me wrong)

Dunno. The network drama thread worked pretty well. I think it's worth considering.

Hmmm. Arguments for why cable drama would work better with one or the other? When I think of shows like Psych or Monk, I think they'd fit in better with network. Rescue Me I might go the opposite way.


aurelia - Jun 17, 2007 12:43:59 pm PDT #6819 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I still feel like Network Drama was too big a bucket, but I know I'm in the minority on this. An even bigger bucket would never be workable for me. Since everything I watch is drama, I would be very sad to see things go that direction.


esse - Jun 17, 2007 1:44:00 pm PDT #6820 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Did we split up drama by delivery mechanism (unlike comedy, reality, and SF/F/genre/boxed-set-whatsis) because we already had premium and it felt like it worked?

I suspect we did because--at least in part--of where the whole discussion originated. And because there didn't seem to be a better way to determine Bright Shiny Lines at the time.

I'd rather not have just one big bucket drama thread, because that would be far too large and unwieldy for even me to follow.

Premium works for me because of the relatively small number of shows that get talked about; Cable worked for me on the same premise. I wouldn't want to take out the dramedy shows from Cable, because of cross-pollination purposes, and because I think original cable drama programming has elements that separate it from network drama.

I haven't actually watched television when it airs on an actual television in about six years, so I'm not the best representation for who does or doesn't have cable. Stations are something I tend to forget about, generally, and part of the reason the network/cable/premium divide has worked for me is because thematically I can tell what show is associated with which setting; there's no chance I could tell you what channel it aired on, though.


DebetEsse - Jun 17, 2007 2:10:54 pm PDT #6821 of 10289
Woe to the fucking wicked.

What sort of shows are you talking about when you talk about Cable "dramedy", SA?


esse - Jun 17, 2007 2:18:08 pm PDT #6822 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Psych and Monk, primarily.


DebetEsse - Jun 17, 2007 2:26:47 pm PDT #6823 of 10289
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Ah. Ok. See, I see them as fitting into the "drama" umbrella (given, in a very different way than, say Rescue Me).

I'm in the camp that thinks that an All the Drama thread would be too big. While it makes some sense to sub-genre and divide All the Drama, our experience trying to get the Experimental Threads set up leads me to believe that there's no way to do that that isn't more work and confusion. The Network/Cable/Premium split seems like it makes more practical sense.

I also think that discussion of a show should go in the thread which it would have gone in on original airing, so that we keep all of the discussion for that show in one place.


Denise - Jun 17, 2007 4:42:53 pm PDT #6824 of 10289

I'm for combining cable and premium drama and having a separate thread for just network drama. All 3 together doesn't make sense to me.


tiggy - Jun 17, 2007 5:05:29 pm PDT #6825 of 10289
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

cable/premium together wouldn't really matter all that much to me, but i would really like to keep network seperate. all three together would be a bit much, i think. i definitely think whitefont needs to be a major componet of this because i'm not sure 24 hour works all that well for the drama threads.


Monique - Jun 17, 2007 7:11:37 pm PDT #6826 of 10289

I totally don't see Psych and Monk as drama. Am I the only one? I heart Psych like you TOTALLY would not believe, but it's so not the same thing as Army Wives or Rescue Me, IMO.

The Dead Zone also seems like it should go in Boxed Set to me.

And I'm with those who've stayed out of Premium because I don't have it.


DebetEsse - Jun 17, 2007 7:29:28 pm PDT #6827 of 10289
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Not the same, but I'd put them there, rather than in a comedy thread or a scifi thread. Any more than that, and we're getting into things that will have seriously fuzzy lines, depending on who you ask.