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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


-t - Aug 16, 2006 3:41:37 pm PDT #6192 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It would be easier for me to get involved in sustained discussions about HBO/SHO shows in a dedicated thread. I don't know if I would have that much more to say. That is, I would have more to say, because I do find myself not posting about Deadwood in Natter to avoid interrupting some other ongoing discussion, and having the discussion in Movies just confuses me (I mostly stay out of Movies to avoid getting spoiled for stuff I haven't seen, since I rarely actually make it out to a theater in anything like a timely fashion). But that's not really a problem that requires a new thread as a solution, more of a rearrangement of my own approach to existing threads.


Gus - Aug 16, 2006 3:43:21 pm PDT #6193 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Claro!

Where do we talk about The Wire?, Weeds?, Brotherhood?

They are all premium things, on the 'nets Allyson mentions in the proposal.


erikaj - Aug 16, 2006 3:57:07 pm PDT #6194 of 10289
Always Anti-fascist!

I think we would talk about them in there, Gus. At least till we gotta ditch the phones again.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2006 4:58:48 pm PDT #6195 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do find myself not posting about Deadwood in Natter to avoid interrupting some other ongoing discussion

If no one interrupted other ongoing discussions in Natter, it wouldn't Natter. It'd be...Catter.


Allyson - Aug 16, 2006 5:07:25 pm PDT #6196 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

That was an obvious ploy for COMM. OBVIOUS.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2006 5:12:52 pm PDT #6197 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

IT'S THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH. YOU CAN'T DENY IT.


Gus - Aug 16, 2006 5:29:40 pm PDT #6198 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

erikaj, I was all up for agreeing with you, then I got confuzzled about where "there" meant, and it got all loud in here. People shouting. It spooks us meek types.


erikaj - Aug 16, 2006 5:57:54 pm PDT #6199 of 10289
Always Anti-fascist!

If there is, so to speak, a Hamsterdam for talking about cable, The Wire fits in. You know, taking our stuff to the free zone and shit. Now I want the new thread so I can name it Cable Hamsterdam.


Gus - Aug 16, 2006 6:01:23 pm PDT #6200 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Cable Hamsterdam

That rocks so hard. Damn, that rocks hard.


DavidS - Aug 16, 2006 6:01:58 pm PDT #6201 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I dont know where Rescue Me and the like came from.

I floated it to see whether people wanted to stick to a tight thread definition or a broader one.

I'm specifically talking about HBO/Showtime. That is all the proposal covers and I'm not expanding on that at all.

Ultimately this comes to compromises between the impulse to not proliferate and the urge to have focused chatter.

Pushing the HBO/Showtime shows together is one clear, bright line grouping of TV shows. It doesn't include all the shows that people are interested in, but it does include several shows which potentially could support sustained interest.

So, reverse engineering the way things have worked around here, I'd say What We Have Done is to (a) give separate threads to shows (or movies, cf. LoTR) which generate heavy volume that disrupts Natter (from this we've given VM and Lost their own separate threads); (b) created a space for Tim's projects; (c) created a group thread for sf/fantasy TV shows. I'd say we'd probably also create a thread for any Jossiverse project that came back to TV without too much dissension. (Also a Spoilers thread on said topic.)

So we don't hand out individual TV threads that are separate from the Jossverse or Tim projects. But like Jefferson, who built the paths after people had worn them in, we have made allowances for shows which have generated high volume. And we have created a group space for genre shows.

So it does seem logical (at least within our culture) to make a space for this grouping of shows.

Potentially, you could also make group threads for Reality Shows or Adult Swim. TAR and Project Runway seem to generate enough interest to sustain a Reality show thread. And I could always huddle with Teppy, bon, Scola, Tommyrot and Theo about new Venture Brothers.

But I'm not proposing those. Just using them as examples.