At the rate we are going we need a scorecard on the front page to point out which threads have which shows.

The main reason, it seems, that Deadwood talk moved into Movies was that Movies moves more slowly than Natter and some people can't keep up with Natter. In general, we've tended to award a show its own thread on basis of its disrupting Natter with its talk, rather than its explicitly moving out of Natter in order to find a space where it can have a higher signal-to-noise ratio. This would seem to be rewarding rule-breaking for a very small audience, rather than relieving the eyeballs of a very big audience. Thoughts?

I agree with most of this (I'm just not worried about rewarding rule-breaking). For me the reason not to create a new thread is that it deprives other threads of activity, conversation, mix. When a topic is drowning out the good mix then I think a new thread is warranted. Otherwise I think it's a net negative to other threads.

But we're Buffistas. Who talk about dead shows all the fricking time. If we build it, it'll get used.

I had no idea there was Deadwood conversation going on in Movies. I mentioned it once or twice in Natter but it didn't seem like there was a high level of discussion so I moved to another board to talk about it.

And, while a number of shows are in their last season, the way those last seasons are spaced out, combined with the new shows that will coming along to replace them (not to mention, two Deadwood movies) I think there's enough there to sustain a thread for some time.

I could talk about Oz there! Although I don't have anything smart to say about it.

Anyway, I think the thing with Deadwood (at least) is that the specific people who most want to talk about it can't handle the speed of Natter. Unlike, say, Project Runway -- not that there aren't people who WOULD talk about PR if they could easily find the discussion, but there's a small critical mass of people who hang around Natter and talk about it there.

Does anyone have any information about new HBO shows? For all we know, they could decide to move in an Arli$$ direction in the future.

We could always talk about the perverse satisfaction I got watching Seda burn to death, Jesse.

Does anyone have any information about new HBO shows?

Most everything is still in development so I don't know what's real and what's not. David Milch's John from Cincinnati is a foregone conclusion and I would expect that Alan Ball's vampire show would make it on the air as well.

The fact that we can't post pictures here would ruin any Oz discussion for me. Although it would keep me from ruining any Oz discussion for everyone else.

the specific people who most want to talk about it can't handle the speed of Natter.

I am one of these specific people, if not the specific person. Natter ALWAYS has 500+ posts when I drop by, and I can't keep up. I don't want another thread just to accommodate me, but I also don't want to get lost in the shuffle. To reiterate, I like posting about HBO tv in Movies, where I can and do keep up, and it doesn't seem that anyone is truly frustrated with the situation as is, except for the messy thread-drift aspect. Perhaps we could modify the Movies thread to include short-run tv shows like the HBO shows (most of which are 13 hours per season, and most seasons of which are spaced out over a couple of years) in the concept. These shows are more like long-run movies than serial tv shows, anyway. With so much time between seasons, the writers generally create tighter arcs and have few, if any, stand-alone episodes and little filler.