You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


msbelle - Dec 20, 2005 3:36:48 am PST #6060 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

sure.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2005 3:38:26 am PST #6061 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Done.


Jesse - Dec 20, 2005 4:55:43 am PST #6062 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

HEY! Who made this proposal to fall RIGHT ON THE HOLIDAYS! Not so bright. ijs.

How many of us are camping for the holidays? Not so many, I'm thinking. Therefore, even people celebrating Christmas can send a stinking email!

Final wording: The Book Club thread should be closed. Yes/No.

I mean, right? Is there anything else to say? Should the ballot have more information, or can interested people just read this thread?


Connie Neil - Dec 20, 2005 6:16:12 am PST #6063 of 10289
brillig

Can we have a proviso for possible re-opening on expressed (and committed) interest, like with the LotR thread?


Jesse - Dec 20, 2005 6:19:05 am PST #6064 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In my opinion, there have been a couple of re-starts already, and future mass book discussion could go into the Literary thread.


TomW - Dec 20, 2005 6:41:37 am PST #6065 of 10289
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

Does the option to re-open a thread need to be made explicit in the proposal to close it?

Is there anything about voting to close a thread that philosophically precludes our far future descendants from voting (via space e-mail with their brains) to reopen it?


amych - Dec 20, 2005 6:43:10 am PST #6066 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Does the option to re-open a thread need to be made explicit in the proposal to close it?

I think not. If someone wants to reopen later, there's nothing inherent in a thread-closing to prevent people from proposing we do so.


Wolfram - Dec 20, 2005 6:49:30 am PST #6067 of 10289
Visilurking

In my opinion, there have been a couple of re-starts already, and future mass book discussion could go into the Literary thread.

The reasons why we opened the book club was that the type of focused discussion we wanted could not be facilitated in Literary. I don't think those reasons are no longer true. I just think there hasn't been enough interest in that type of focused discussion.

Does the option to re-open a thread need to be made explicit in the proposal to close it?

I think the difference is whether it would require a proposal and re-vote to reopen, rather than a group of us just saying that we want to use it again. I think connie's idea would be to close it with the option to reopen it without a formal vote. Is that what was done with LOTR, or do they require a new proposal to reopen?


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2005 6:52:33 am PST #6068 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The reasons why we opened the book club was that the type of focused discussion we wanted could not be facilitated in Literary.

It seems that it can't be sustained outside of Literary either.

My understanding of the LotR addendum is that the thread won't be archived, so it can be reopened. Are you saying that's what you want for Book Club, instead of just proposing a new thread if you get a new idea for how to keep it going?


Jesse - Dec 20, 2005 7:01:36 am PST #6069 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My point is that there have been months without many posts in Literary, and a few months with a lot of posts in Book Club. My proposal is less that there should never be a Buffista Book Club, and more that we really only need one thread to discuss books, rather than two seldom-used ones.

Edit: And I remember the white-font issues that came up in the original book club thread discussion.

If enough people disagree with the proposal, it won't pass.