If nothing else, Deena, there is a two month suspension step in between warning and banning.
Everyone's getting spanked but me.
Willow ,'The Killer In Me'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Jesse - Apr 14, 2003 2:47:09 pm PDT #603 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
arby - Apr 14, 2003 2:47:51 pm PDT #604 of 10289
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
I agree with both the proposal and the wording posted above.
Cindy - Apr 14, 2003 2:48:44 pm PDT #605 of 10289
Nobody
I'm importing msbelle's press post, so we can see the wording here.
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PROPOSAL: The following procedure will be in place for warning a poster about unacceptable behaviour. . 1. A user-complainant will try to resolve the complaint on-thread. If unsuccessful, 2. A user-complainant (does not need to be same person) will post in-thread that it's time to meet in Bureaucracy. 3. A user-complainant posts in Bureaucracy outlining complaint and linky citations, and requests a Warning. 4. At least 10 other users in 24 hours second the need for a Warning. 5. Stompy sets forth a Warning over email and in Bureaucracy.
Proposer: msbelle Seconds Jesse, hayden, Kat., JessPMoon, Laura
Atropa - Apr 14, 2003 2:49:25 pm PDT #606 of 10289
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
I agree with the proposal and with the wording.
Lyra Jane - Apr 14, 2003 2:50:39 pm PDT #607 of 10289
Up with the sun
I think 10 people in 24 hours is a high standard -- but this may be an area where high standards are needed.
Cindy - Apr 14, 2003 2:51:05 pm PDT #608 of 10289
Nobody
I'd like to see number 4 be a lower number or a longer time period, in part - because of weekends, but I wouldn't vote it down just because of number 4.
§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 2:51:40 pm PDT #609 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I hate 24 hour windows. I'm mostly against anything less than or equal to 48 (weekend non-access), but think that 48 would be better than 24 in this case.
I mean, if it's all that egregious, the numbers will be made pretty damned quickly.
Nutty - Apr 14, 2003 2:51:58 pm PDT #610 of 10289
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Deena, I'm thinking I sort of like your idea. I'd hate to think that, having gone bananas once, I had always to guard against going bananas for the rest of my Buffista life, or face an automatic suspension. I mean, I don't want to go bananas every month, but maybe 6 months?
I mean, we can forgive a lot in 6 months, right? And 6 months is long enough that a true troll and/or rage issues-poster won't survive that long without going on to the suspension/banning stage.
Otherwise I'm mostly in agreement with proposal and boilerplate, considering I helped compose both!
arby - Apr 14, 2003 2:54:50 pm PDT #611 of 10289
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
I think Deena means, "Does the counter get reset on offensive behavior?" which I agree is not included in the above proposal.
Laura - Apr 14, 2003 2:56:48 pm PDT #612 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
On the proposed procedure:
1. Try to resolve in thread. Of course.
2. Post in thread it’s time for Bureaucracy. Makes sense.
3. Outline complaint in Bureaucracy and request warning. Yep.
4. 10 other users agree within 24 hours. Seems reasonable.
5. Stompy sets forth warning via email and in Bureaucracy. OK
I like it. Having a procedure will be easier for me personally than floundering around with the should we or shouldn’t we debate. If 10 members feel another member is violating community standards a warning should be issued. It is not a ban, or a prison sentence. It is just a warning.
Also, I think the 2 month period was previously established as policy and seems good to me.
Peace y’all, I am going to go distract myself with the VCD that just popped out of my computer.