They are separate issues. I wasn't trying to conflate them, just roundaboutly bring up the idea that I think this thread is the one after the breaking of the camel's back, and it's bigger than just "I want a thread to discuss my thing in" -- it's back to the who are we and how do we handle who we are discussion.

For me.

I dislike the adding adding adding without the reorganisation. Organic's only going to get you so far.

FWIW, I'd be fine with a TV folder - I know what you mean about the number of threads on the homepage - and if you propose that I'll second it, certainly. After I get my VM thread...

Question about the folder -- would a poster be able to subscribe to individual threads within a folder, or would it be an all-or-nothing deal (like WX was)?

I'd have no problem with a folder as a housekeeping matter, but I'd feel differently if it affected the ability to subscribe.

t OT All that would change would be that the threads would be grouped and listed off the front page t /OT

So if you had new messages in a thread in the tv folder, would you be able to see it from the message center? Or would you have to open the tv folder first to see that there are new messages there?

Let's not derail this discussion with folder functionality -- this discussion belongs in the BBaBB++ folder -- want to reask there?

OK, more about my pitch for Veronica Mars. There have been a couple of comments about it being a break with genre, which I kind of understand, but profoundly disagree with. What VM has in common with Buffy and (early, funnier) Angel is the way it uses genre tropes to reflect and illuminate a straight drama or even soap world. That, to me, is the defining generic thing about Buffy, the root of why I loved BTVS, and why VM is much closer to it than, say, Lost.

the other comment I wanted to address is that we could wait until later in the season and see if interest fades. We could, obviously, but I'd rather have the thread, not least to encourage Buffistas who haven't watched VM to give it a go.

This is why I'd ask for a VM thread rather than, say, one for The Wire or Sopranos or Weeds.

Where are my peeps! C'mon, anti-proliferationistas! Blargh.

I'll vote against the thread (sorry, Jim), but since the will of the people will be imposed anyway, I might as well not quibble.

I'll take my folder functionality beefs over to BaB.

I'm still anti-prolif, but I don't think I need to remind people of that, or bother trying to convince anyone that my way is the one true way.

Either I'm growing up, or getting more easily tired.