Yeah, except we want the names in there so people won't feel left out of a joke. Are we going to make Teppy and Perkins explain their whole "You suck" riff, that obviously happened when they spent time together? I'm left out of that joke.

I don't think the names in profile is because some people feel "left out" of a joke, Cindy. It's because some people are really bothered and/or annoyed by sockpuppets. Period. For a variety of reasons stated. So it gives those people the ability to see behind the mask. Which may have very little to do with understanding the joke.

Personally, I think the policies live in the FAQ.

ok, the FAQ says nothing about not having a log-in of (for example) Jese H.

The FAQ links to the Etiquette page to address board behavior (Under How to Block a Poster), it says nothing itself.

It says nothing about Spamming.

Where's the thingy that says "You can't resigter as Tim Minear or we shave your head" ?

right now that is in the Cheesebutt/Law-Speak doc that is not linked to anywhere on this site and is not in a final form.

Yeah, except we want the names in there so people won't feel left out of a joke

It feels in-jokey but if this discussion has shown anything it's that most people are not in on who's sockpuppeting. But that's not what's annoying about it. We maintain a culture where we like to know with whom we are speaking, and SPs are a deliberate subversion of this culture by posters who know that.

right now that is in the Cheesebutt/Law-Speak doc that is not linked to anywhere on this site and is not in a final form.

Ok, I thought that was on the site somewhere and I read it. Maybe not.

Then to re-answer my answer, I don't know where policies are as they seem to be spread out.

Sorry I vanished, I had to run off to a meeting and I'm now on my way out the door again and not sure when I'll be able to get back to this.

My quick skim looks like I don't have anything to add right now.

We maintain a culture where we like to know with whom we are speaking, and SPs are a deliberate subversion of this culture by posters who know that.

This is an honest question. Why is this bad? So Poster X decides he wants to be Wanda the Weird for a few posts. Treat Wanda like Wanda and X like X. If Wanda and X start long discussions together or backing up each other's statements without acknowledging the connection (see ID in profile), it's becomes worrisome and worth wondering about multiple personality issues, but that's the only problem I see.

So someone wants to let another part of their personality out to play without all the baggage that is attached to the more familiar identity? So what?

Except for the people who have met face to face, no one knows who they're talking to on the internet. You've just got my word for it that I'm a 44-year-old woman in Utah (OK, there are some witnesses otherwise). I am legitimately puzzled by the "I have to know who I'm talking to" issue. I interact with the identity as it's presented. I don't care if they're all expressions of the marvelous complexity that is one individual.

I think the FAQ is too huge to hide policies in. As I said in Bureau, I think we need to include the rules (when they are compiled) with etiquette. Or at least link to them from there.

You've just got my word for it that I'm a 44-year-old woman in Utah

I don't care if you're a 44 year old woman in Utah. However, I have become very accustomed to attaching your user name to the words that follow it and the brain behind them both. It's my preferred method of interaction.

I don't have to understand your appreciation of multi-facetedness being expressed with multiple IDs to get that you have it.

Me? Doesn't work that way for my reading experience.

If you want to change your ID to Wanda The Weird -- that I could also care less about. It's still your ID to your brain.

On the one hand, "please ID yourself when you sockpuppet" is a social conformity thing, like "please don't sign your post that is dorky." Somebody fails to conform, somebody else gets grumpy, the pod takes over and conformity occurs, or an argument ensues over whether conformity is required, or conformity does not ensue and sore points may spring up.

To my knowledge, non-signage of one's name to a post is not in the FAQ or Etiquette or any other rule document. On the other hand, it's a visible conformity-failure when somebody signs their posts. When somebody sockpuppets without the ID, it's not necessarily obvious that he/she is violating our happy tin-hatted conformity, confusion ensues, and you get arguments like what has been happening of late.

So, like, just for the sake of clarity, it's worthwhile to add something to Etiquette/Rules (right next to the citation of "please don't sign up as Josh Whedon that's stupid" and "please don't sign up as Fuckface that's juvenile").

For the record, we consensed about all of the above without voting on them. For the record, I am a consensetarian whenever it saves labor.