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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Wolfram - Apr 13, 2005 3:28:23 pm PDT #5336 of 10289
Visilurking

Any way we can consense the profile thing rather than making it a hard and fast LAW? That way we won't have to legislate things like the Allyson Exception.


NoiseDesign - Apr 13, 2005 3:28:48 pm PDT #5337 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

I like the profile solution.


JohnSweden - Apr 13, 2005 3:29:53 pm PDT #5338 of 10289
I can't even.

I don't think it's remotely a stretch to call sockpuppetry rude behavior

It certainly is to the people that think it is funny, or even those who are willing to tolerate it.

In a board culture that has traditionally valued real-world identity as much as this one has, using a sockpuppet to talk to people (or, more frequently, at people) just for kicks, is rude behavior.

To be evaluated and appealed as "demon-like" on a case-by-case basis.


Connie Neil - Apr 13, 2005 3:30:10 pm PDT #5339 of 10289
brillig

t smelling the heady scent of consensus brewing

I like it


DavidS - Apr 13, 2005 3:31:00 pm PDT #5340 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Any way we can consense the profile thing rather than making it a hard and fast LAW?

I'd be fine with consensing that it was a matter of etiquette and good citizenship to avoid sockpuppet abuse. That the expectation is that the puppetteer volunteer the information in their profile, and if they don't, then somebody can ask them to do so.


juliana - Apr 13, 2005 3:31:50 pm PDT #5341 of 10289
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I'd be fine with consensing that it was a matter of etiquette and good citizenship to avoid sockpuppet abuse. That the expectation is that the puppetteer volunteer the information in their profile, and if they don't, then somebody can ask them to do so.

I'm cool with that.


Connie Neil - Apr 13, 2005 3:32:35 pm PDT #5342 of 10289
brillig

If the puppetteer doesn't agree to that, that's the point where the rest of the armament of the Stompies can come into play.


Susan W. - Apr 13, 2005 3:33:24 pm PDT #5343 of 10289
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Any way we can consense the profile thing rather than making it a hard and fast LAW? That way we won't have to legislate things like the Allyson Exception.

Works for me.


Lyra Jane - Apr 13, 2005 3:33:50 pm PDT #5344 of 10289
Up with the sun

Well, one is a direct suppression of freedom of expression and one isn't?

As msbelle pointed out, we have lots of rules about how we can express ourselves and where. And no one can or is trying to ban all sockpuppets from the Internet. If you're into it, you can go to Sang Sacre, or another board. I don't think "No sockpuppetting" is any more supressive than "whitefont current-season TV discussion," and it will affect fewer people.

Right now outlawing sockpuppets feels more like the latter example.

I respect your thinking, Susan, though I still disagree. Thanks for your response.

hte proposal of a true ID in the profile is a very good work-around. Any SP who doesn't do this we know is not following hte rules.

If we had three choices -- ban sockpuppets, no change, or allow sockpuppets with attribution in the tagline or profile -- I would vote for allowed-with-attribution. The performance aspect bugs me, but I can deal with it much mroe than I can deal with not knowing who is posting.


Atropa - Apr 13, 2005 3:35:00 pm PDT #5345 of 10289
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I'd be fine with consensing that it was a matter of etiquette and good citizenship to avoid sockpuppet abuse. That the expectation is that the puppetteer volunteer the information in their profile, and if they don't, then somebody can ask them to do so.

I'm all sorts of good with that. (And again, my apologies to anyone who was annoyed by Clovis burbling in a thread other than Sang Sancre. Yes, I am worried that my fanged rabbit annoyed people. Look, you people *knew* I was crazy.)