What makes a universe crunchy?

I think this is a very valuable discussion to have. This may wind up being one of the healthier discussions we've had. It could also end up being the worst. Time will tell.

And I get that a fair number of people are really upset by sockpuppets, and I think that's legitimate.

I just have grave doubts that an offical policy against them is the best answer.

And no, I still don't have a better suggestion.

What makes a universe crunchy?

Snap, Crackle, and Pop.

We don't like sockpuppets = we're oversensitive.

I don't think this is the case, and I personally don't think that you or Lyra or Jess or ita or lori or anyone who has voiced a firm anti-sockpuppet opinion is oversensitive. I hope none of my posts prompted you to say that, because that's not what I think.

or wait, are you being funny?

I'll concede I'm being witty. As for the rest of it, I'm trending towards fairly serious. You're asking me to modify my theoretical behavior because you find it icky, when the option exists for you to either ignore my behavior or to call me on it when such behavior appears. Or, for silly illustration, "You, don't wear plaid, I can't abide plaid. Oh, sorry, you love plaid? Too bad."

Yes, I find your objections trending towards oversensitive. You find my statements to be overreactions. We may both be right. So who gets to be wrong?

We may both be right. So who gets to be wrong?

This.

Clovis, Ferrets, Zombies, and God have been here as long as I have. I think this IS part of our community vibe.

I feel like one or two posts every blue moon from a sockpuppet whose "real" identity is easily sussed out creates a different vibe than having a new sockpuppet every other week.

This somewhat sums up my feelings. Occasional posts from Clovis or the FLO seem to be fine. (This is where I point out again that when Clovis started posting, it took *me* by surprise, too.) But lots and lots of posts all the time from sockpuppets that seem to be an in-joke for just a few people start getting ... hmm. Irritating isn't quite the word I'm looking for, but is close.

For what it's worth, Pete and I are very aware that part of Clovis' conversational charm is that he's not always around.

the posts that read to me like bringing it to LB was an overreaction is what led me to use the word oversensitive.

What makes a universe crunchy?

admittedly a bad word choice. substitute in "anti-establishment" and you can add the eye-roll for effect.

I guess it's just that as Allyson, if I say, "I heard that Alexis Denisof and Alyson Hannigan are guesting on The Inside this season," it's probably going to get linked in a lot of places as the Truth. Same for Kristen. The assumption, the silent e, is that we heard it from Tim.

As paperdol, it's just a rumor that causes uber-fun speculation.

Maybe that's unfair in some way.

There's also sticky association problems. I might be putting together a Serenity party for example. Maybe I think Serenity blows. Can't really offer that opinion as Allyson.

Which I guess is totally my problem.

who gets to be wrong is whoever loses the vote, if this even goes to a vote.

And NO, that doesn't mean one is RIGHT and the other WRONG - it means that if a quorum is reached, then the majority of the posters who could bother themselves to vote decided what is best for the community at this point.