No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


ChiKat - Apr 13, 2005 12:59:46 pm PDT #5164 of 10289
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I think generalizing all sockpuppeting as cruel or nasty or childish is a big mistake. Sockpuppeting may have the potential to get out of hand, and has on occassion, but I wouldn't characterize most of the SPing as anything other than good humor.

Yes, this. Except I don't recall any time that did nasty. The annoyance factor seems to vary dramatically.


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 1:00:24 pm PDT #5165 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Here's the original proposal:

Historically, we've encouraged people to use real names, but that's withered as the Internet got waaaaaay too crowded. I would like to propose that we expect people to use precisely one name; pick a pseud, if you must, but stick to it.

So. Formal proposal: Add to Buffista etiquette the following: "One account per customer. Please don't set up multiple accounts under different names. Anybody showing up as a concept or any other abstract noun will be asked to prove it."

Please ignore the final sentence; people quickly convinced me it was unnecessary.


Pix - Apr 13, 2005 1:01:20 pm PDT #5166 of 10289
The status is NOT quo.

I always got a kick out of the FLO and Clovis, and I saw March and the Universe as equally harmless and fun. I think it's a matter of intent. Both of the more recent examples were a direct response to something someone in thread said--in the first case, I said, "I hope March doesn't hear me" (it had become a running thread joke that March was out to get all of us), and then "March" showed up to taunt me sporadically over the next few days. It was one of more fun exchanges I've had on the board recently. It appeals to my sense of the ridiculous.


NoiseDesign - Apr 13, 2005 1:01:54 pm PDT #5167 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Without humor it seems that is isn't much of a posting board either.

I need to schedule my humorectomy soon.


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 1:02:08 pm PDT #5168 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Here's why I suggested this.

One of the things I like, a lot, about Buffistas is that I know who I'm talking to. Sure, WeremonkeyGus and NoiseDesign and Wolfram are all pseudonyms, but I have personalities for them. I know that ND does stage work and Wolfram's a lawyer and Gus is a magician. I have a history with these people, and expectations.

I don't like it when somebody shows up and claims to be new and isn't. This isn't a masked ball, it's a cocktail party.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 1:02:29 pm PDT #5169 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

At the risk of upsetting just a whole bunch of people on both sides:

I can see why people get upset about the sockpuppeting, it's happened SO much lately, that it's begun bothering even me.

But now we're having a vote and a proposal to make a rule about it or something? WTF??? Are we the United States Congress now?


Aims - Apr 13, 2005 1:03:02 pm PDT #5170 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I see the sockpuppets as any other "person" who signs up on the board. Until they violate the etiquette, why tell them they can't be here?


NoiseDesign - Apr 13, 2005 1:03:23 pm PDT #5171 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Are we the United States Congress now?

We certainly seem to be headed that way.


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 1:03:34 pm PDT #5172 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Look, people objected to it in Bitches. People said "You're just a big old party-pooper." I thought it would be smart to have a discussion about it that couldn't be trampled by accusations of humorlessness.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 1:03:40 pm PDT #5173 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I don't like it when somebody shows up and claims to be new and isn't. This isn't a masked ball, it's a cocktail party.

I can respect this, but I think that a proposal and voting are the wrong way to deal with this, and is a very poor solution.