LJ, I think you should go ahead and put an option for a general spoilers thread on the ballot for clarity. It seems to have received support in this discussion.

While this is not what's being read by anyone, as far as I can tell, I did want to clarify on one thing coming from me.

First, I am not unhappy with the aforementioned subtle shift. The board will, of course, grow and change, as the posters change, etc. I am happy with the wonderful Buffistas that have joined us with their interest in those new shows.

Secondly, it's definitely not that I don't want to see new posters coming in. I think it's great, and it's important for us as a community to continue to have new folks finding us and joining the fray.

Lastly, however, my concern was more towards feeling that the appeal of Buffistas comes from our friendships, which come from our common interests. It's a desire to see that the boards continue to be a place where we can find each other across a crowded internet. It's more about continuing to draw the people that have these same things in common with us, and together with whom we can enjoy each others' company, banter, snark and wisdom. Of course we want a diverse community. But we also want to have some commonality to build on.

So. I realize that some of my language may have come off as exclusionary, and I hope that's not the case. I apologize for giving that impression. Please let me know if I've been hurtful in any way.

Meanwhile, we'll still be fine no matter what, we'll still be us, and we'll get to talk to each other about what we're interested in. We're just voting on how we want to do that.

Thanks for the clarification, Lyra.

I may be completely wrong about this, but weren't the majority of new posters in Firefly and Minearverse brought here by the VIP postings?

I was going to say the same thing, but Wolfram beat me to it (by... uh... 5 hours).

my inclination is to make this vote on Angel Spoilers a straight archive/keep vote, like the other two.

I agree. It also avoids a situation of no choice getting a majority of votes (unless you want to do prfffffffial vffftting).

I'd be for having a separate vote now on whether to create a general spoilers thread.

Based on the feedback from today, here is the

• **REVISED DRAFT BALLOT***

There has been a lot of discussion about the possibility of adding additional show-specific threads. After last week's poll and discussion, these are the thread ideas that seem worth voting on. Any threads started through this vote will be closed and archived if the show is cancelled, unless there is a specific reason to keep the thread.

1. Should we add a Lost thread?
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

2. Should we add a The O.C. thread?
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

3. Should we add a general reality TV thread?
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

4. Should we add a general TV spoilers thread? Whitefont policy is to be determined later.
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

To keep our post table and number of threads managable, one option is closing and archiving threads that are no longer in use.

5. Should we close and archive Previously on Angel?
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

6. Should we close and archive Angel Quotables, after the deathmatches finish?
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

7. Should we close and archive Angel Spoilers?
_ Yes
_ No
_ Abstain

Comment: If we're proposing a general spoilers thread anyhow, is there any other reason to keep the up/down votes on the Angel threads separate? Because if not, I'm inclined to combine them.

Thanks for all your work LJ. Many of the items are Abstain for me to leave them to those who participate, but

Go Lost, Choose Lost!

Looks good to me.

Right now, I'll be voting for a Lost and general spoilers thread, but against the other two. I'm with the group that only wants a show thread if I think it will generate interesting spicy-brained discussion (Lost), or if it serves a useful purpose (spoilers).

And I'm for closing the three threads listed because they've outlived their usefulness.

is there any other reason to keep the up/down votes on the Angel threads separate?

Other than a little less work for the vote counter, I see no advantage to combining them. Someone might want to keep quotables (for example), but not care about the other two.

Yeah, I think I'd just as soon see the thread closure votes kept separate.