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Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Wolfram - Jul 08, 2004 12:34:01 pm PDT #4359 of 10289
Visilurking

IOW, in six months, if anyone is unhappy, they can call for a vote on whether or not the thread should be kept open. But I wouldn't auto-close it, because people might just forget. Do you know what I mean?

Well the purpose of the clause is to avoid the necessity for someone to come along and say hey, let's close the thread. Some people have stated (correctly I believe) that once a thread is open it's really difficult to garner the momentum to close it. This way the auto-close mechanism is automatic and does not have to be triggered by anyone in particular.

Anyway, like I said, nobody has come along and said that Clause A or B will satisfy their concerns of proliferation and/or resource strain, and absent that, I'm not inclined to include either of them.


DavidS - Jul 08, 2004 12:39:51 pm PDT #4360 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'd rather not include the sub-clauses. I like to keep all the threads on an even footing. I don't want mailing lists, or PF threads or first head on the chopping block. If we're going to add a thread, it should be able have full standing, and if we can't do it on those terms then we shouldn't do it.

I'll also note again that I think that any attempt to run the book club within the confines of Literary will be stillborn.


brenda m - Jul 08, 2004 12:42:37 pm PDT #4361 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Actually, it would be helpful if some of the people who are especially concerned about resource issues could weigh in on whether either or both of these clauses are helpful or not. If they are, I'm happy to go with adding either one.


Jesse - Jul 08, 2004 12:54:28 pm PDT #4362 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm generally concerned about resource issues, but am really against a last-in, first-out addition to the proposal -- maybe the Book Club thread will be the most amazing thing to ever happen to Buffistas and 90% of us would agree to get rid of the Buffy thread before we get rid of Book Club. I exaggerate for effect.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 08, 2004 1:02:25 pm PDT #4363 of 10289
What is even happening?

How about some kind of pact that we don't claim "sub-community status" if and/or when the board has to go through consolidation. That wouldn't put the thread first on the chopping block, but at some point, this sub-community thing has got to give (and I say that, realizing the only other threads I still post in regularly, are sub-communities).


Connie Neil - Jul 08, 2004 1:06:48 pm PDT #4364 of 10289
brillig

I'm on the side of "no clauses, and we won't be pissy if we're told we're a drain on resources." Or, yeah, if we adversely impact on resources, I think we're big enough to let it go. Though I reserve the right to pout.


Jon B. - Jul 08, 2004 4:16:28 pm PDT #4365 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Do we have someone to count votes? (I think Nilly volunteered somewhere upthread.)

She did.

ita - can you make sure votes@... points to her?

When does voting start? (Due to my own personal responsibilities, my final draft of the proposal will be posted no later than 3:00 P.m. EST/12:00 p.m. board time.) So as far as I'm concerned the ballot can be set up anytime after that.

I'll be busy at that time, but should be able to get a ballot up a few hours after that, say by 10PM EDT, 7PM board time.


Liese S. - Jul 08, 2004 8:36:18 pm PDT #4366 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Huh.


Jon B. - Jul 09, 2004 12:30:50 am PDT #4367 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Huh, what?


Topic!Cindy - Jul 09, 2004 3:27:06 am PDT #4368 of 10289
What is even happening?

No. Huh's on second.