River: The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuuming systems. Mal: See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.

'Safe'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


brenda m - Jul 07, 2004 3:52:53 pm PDT #4280 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I should note that I don't take part in Literary, but the idea of a Book Club was intriguing until I was thinking about the How of it, and it seems such a task to make any sort of decision around here, that it's souring the idea, for me.

Like here, though, there's no requirement to take part in the back-end business. Let other people argue it out and just come in once the complicated stuff is done, I'd say.


victor infante - Jul 07, 2004 3:56:51 pm PDT #4281 of 10289
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I wouldn't swear on it, but I think mom's - people who want to suggest a book, say so. Then they draw names to see whose goes first.

That's pretty much normal. It allows different people to suggest different things, and keeps it broken up.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 07, 2004 3:58:36 pm PDT #4282 of 10289
What is even happening?

I kind of like this idea too, though it's got problems. There are people that might want to discuss a book, but not lead the discussion. On the flip though, there's an appealing element of the structure we have here for voting: you propose it, you write it up for the vote.

I am unclear on the purpose of "discussion leader" and how we'll make a led discussion work for Buffistas. What functions would this person perform (admittedly, I am thinking "professor" and turning a little cold)?

Also? Even though this has kind of been smoothed over, I still really, strongly need to urge that we don't push any specific lit agenda. Now, please don't take that as criticism. I just think the thread will work better, if everyone feels that their tastes, and their kind of analysis and discussion is welcome in the thread. I am actually excited to read all kinds of books, with all kinds of Buffistas. My education is sorely lacking, and I need more exposure to the Western canon, but also to everything else, as well.

As a non-academic adult book lover, I am equally interested in reading classics with a classics-lover; horror with a horror-lover; westerns with a western-lover; farce with a farce-lover; romance with a romance-lover; historical novels with a history buffy (Ha! You thought I was gonna say "lover" again, but I didn't because I am so very flexible), y-a and/or children's classics with a y-a or children's classics book lover (and wouldn't be opposed to reading non-fiction sometimes, and a graphic novel or two, with a graphic novel lover). I am not demanding all these things mind you, but there is so much out there that is so great to read, that I hate to shut the door on anyone's tastes at the outset. I'd rather we were neither high brow, nor anti-high brow, if that makes sense.


Daisy Jane - Jul 07, 2004 4:02:26 pm PDT #4283 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

ITA Cindy. I think I mentioned in Literary my love for a little trash book called Princess Daisy? You know what- I think that would be a good book for a discussion (probably not the first I'd pick though). It's almost a hodgepodge of all the cliches. Incest, royalty, secret siblings, so on and etc. It'd be interesting to explore those, and why they make such good romance fodder.


DavidS - Jul 07, 2004 4:10:28 pm PDT #4284 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am unclear on the purpose of "discussion leader" and how we'll make a led discussion work for Buffistas. What functions would this person perform (admittedly, I am thinking "professor" and turning a little cold)?

I don't think a discussion leader would be a requisite for the book club. It could be an occasional thing. But my favorite classes in college were the ones where the professor had a passion for their subject and a deep knowledge of it. I think we've got Buffistas with spicy brains like that -- folks that haven't just read the work in question but are intimately familiar with the era, the author's biography, related works, influences and followers, critical thought and more. It would be like leading a discussion, not giving a lecture.


JenP - Jul 07, 2004 4:10:35 pm PDT #4285 of 10289

It seems horribly complex to me. I still don't understand how the voting works

I wish I could offer NSYNC examples. I think it'll seem unwieldy until we get a good system, maybe. But I think that'll take tweaking in-thread, if there is one.

Which is why I'm trying to hammer out a How, a simple, easy to apply How, so that I can enjoy the thing, too. I'm looking for the eureka of it, because otherwise I'd vote no just to avoid the mess. Is where I'm coming from on it. From a completely selfish standpoint, that.

Totally get that. I share your dislike of how freakin' long and drawn out things that should be simple can get. Hence, I'm a fan of the random draw in this case. Where we differ on this is just that I'm interested enough that I'll vote yes without the eureka moment. Also from a completely selfish standpoint.

So we'd cancel each other out, then, right? Want to just not vote? Because my head is starting to hurt.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 07, 2004 4:14:08 pm PDT #4286 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I have an idea!

I WILL CHOOSE THE BOOKS!

And you will all bend to my will

You will read Louisa May Alcott's The Old fashioned Girl NOW

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!


Daisy Jane - Jul 07, 2004 4:18:26 pm PDT #4287 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

goes out to buy LMA's book because I am bent to Sophia's will


DavidS - Jul 07, 2004 4:18:43 pm PDT #4288 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

See, I knew I shouldn't let Sophia hang out with Rio and Bon Bon.


JenP - Jul 07, 2004 4:19:15 pm PDT #4289 of 10289

that I hate to shut the door on anyone's tastes at the outset

Oh, sure. But do you metion sci-fi lovers? No. No, you don't. (Couldn't be more kidding, by the way, in case that's not completely obvious. About the door shutting. Not about loving sci-fi, because I do).

I'm with you on the all kinds of material thing. Just not very articulate about it.

Or we could just go Sophia's way.