Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Hil R. - Jul 06, 2004 5:46:57 pm PDT #4087 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think the point that was getting made was that the general climate in Literary was not hospitable to having in-depth discussions of literary texts.

I think there's some confusion about what different people mean by "in-depth discussion." (Or, at least, I'm confused.) To me, it means people talking for awhile about the same book, and having some sort of sustained discussion going beyond "I like it," "Me too!" "I don't." So, discussing characters, plot, whether it would have been better with a different ending, whatever. Are you using it to mean something more specific?


Daisy Jane - Jul 06, 2004 5:49:02 pm PDT #4088 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

No Hil, that's what I meant.

ETA- actually perhaps a little deeper than characters and plot. Interpretations, meanings (in all forms) is more what I was going for.

I think I use "I like it" "Me too" as shorthand for the surface discussions that go on in there mostly.


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2004 5:52:14 pm PDT #4089 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, wow.

It seems I stated it too harshly, but no -- sometimes one is just wrong. And that one certainly includes myself -- I've been wrong right here in the last hour.

The fact that you mistakenly thought most threads didn't get created means ... it means you mistakenly thought most threads didn't get created. That's ALL. It does not speak to the strength or prevalence of an anti-proliferation group.

It just means you were mistaken.


Jessica - Jul 06, 2004 6:22:47 pm PDT #4090 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And to think my primary participation in this discussion was to comment about differences in perception, and now I'm getting the big smackdown for it?

No, you claimed that more threads had been prevented by anti-proliferationista arguments than had actually happened. The numbers don't support you, therefore, your number-based assertion was wrong.

How is that a smackdown?


JenP - Jul 06, 2004 6:30:04 pm PDT #4091 of 10289

I should probably know this - how long do we discuss?


Aims - Jul 06, 2004 6:39:43 pm PDT #4092 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

how long do we discuss?

Until the propser's head explodes.

Or seven days.


Kristen - Jul 06, 2004 6:42:07 pm PDT #4093 of 10289

I thought it was four. And then voting for three.

Or is it talking for three and voting for four?

Or maybe it's easier to just go with the head exploding thing.


Aims - Jul 06, 2004 6:42:46 pm PDT #4094 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Maybe it's easier to go with the head exploding thing.

Totally.


Allyson - Jul 06, 2004 6:43:27 pm PDT #4095 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm a little lost on how exactly a Book Club would work, and it might be buried in here, and I skipped and so I beg forgiveness.

How does a book get assigned? What's the lead time to expect it will be read? Is a new book proposed, voted upon (misterpoll?), and then announced in Press? Will there be a list of books so that people can pick something from the list and wait for discussion to start? At some point, won't there be so many books assigned that it then becomes another literary thread?

These, and more questions, next time on the Allyson Skimmed Show.


JenP - Jul 06, 2004 6:47:42 pm PDT #4096 of 10289

How does a book get assigned? What's the lead time to expect it will be read? Is a new book proposed, voted upon (misterpoll?), and then announced in Press? Will there be a list of books so that people can pick something from the list and wait for discussion to start? At some point, won't there be so many books assigned that it then becomes another literary thread?

The beauty part? All that is for discussion in thread if it passes. Or, I guess in Lit if it doesn't and people are still interested in trying. Or nowhere if neither.

Seven days? Dear god. That seems long. I'm liking four.