I mean, let's say you did kill us. Or didn't. There could be torture. Whatever. But somehow you found the goods. What would your cut be?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


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brenda m - Jul 06, 2004 11:24:52 am PDT #3965 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

What I'm still unclear on is, to put it as bluntly as possible, which side goes where? Did people want to move the litcrit to the Book Club thread and leave Literary to the anti-intellectuals, or the other way around?

If nothing else, you had me laughing out loud at my desk, so thanks for that at least.

More seriously, I agree that this isn't so much intended to separate the two groups as it is responding to one aspect of the kerfuffle, which is that some people are really jonesing for some more focused literary discussion. For a handful of reasons, that's not a need that the Lit thread is currently meeting. My hunch is that there won't be much of a change at all in the current Lit thread, though already the kerfuff does seem to have sparked some interesting discussions.


Wolfram - Jul 06, 2004 11:37:59 am PDT #3966 of 10289
Visilurking

Has anyone checked in Literary to see if they'd allow a book club thread to operate inside there? It's really not a viable alternative if it's a non-starter.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 06, 2004 11:42:02 am PDT #3967 of 10289
What is even happening?

So no, not a solution to what ails Literary, but me wanting to tell Literary that it's nice, and I hope we can always be friends, but a thread where I can get down and dirty with a text (kinda like that nice guy's hot moody older brother).

Loves on Heather


Daisy Jane - Jul 06, 2004 11:49:30 am PDT #3968 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I would think- and this may just be me, that a book club would take over that thread if it operated within it.

It's not just that the conversation was disjointed before (like Natter or Bitches where everyone hops from one topic to another), but it had to be disjointed, because the chances that any of us were reading the same book at any given time were so slim that it was pretty much always going to be "I read this really good book!" "Me too, but it was years ago, I liked it though" "Hey I read this book." There really was no way around that. A book club however would be pretty focused discussion. It would be like matter and anti-matter. I think maybe a better analogy than drabble and foamies would be Press and Angel trying to exist in the same thread.

I could be completely off base though.


Wolfram - Jul 06, 2004 12:02:38 pm PDT #3969 of 10289
Visilurking

I think maybe a better analogy than drabble and foamies would be Press and Angel trying to exist in the same thread.

Maybe trying to do Angel deathmatch in Angel?


-t - Jul 06, 2004 12:03:14 pm PDT #3970 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

JenP has said what I was thinking about saying. I'll just point towards her and nod vigorously.


Daisy Jane - Jul 06, 2004 12:10:37 pm PDT #3971 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Heh. My analogy's probably faulty too, but my point is that with one really focused discussion (Angel episodes) and one that bounces hither and thither and yon- the hither and thither one will likely get eaten, and I think the Literary thread as it is does work for some people.


Aims - Jul 06, 2004 12:45:25 pm PDT #3972 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

A concern:

Who will lead the duscussions?

Will it be something like Aimee suggests Boox about X, Heather suggests Book Involving Y, and Kat suggests Book Sorta Like Z and then the "participants" do a quick vote/BS concensus and then whose ever book is chosen leads?

I ask because I think that all precautions should be taken so that this thread doesn't turn into someone's personal treehouse and the vibe isn't the same as most of the other threads where enyone has the chance to lead a conversation.


Aims - Jul 06, 2004 12:46:47 pm PDT #3973 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Meaning, I would like to see all books have the chance to be discussed ad nauseum.


brenda m - Jul 06, 2004 12:47:15 pm PDT #3974 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'd say that part of the nomination process might be scrounging up a volunteer to kick-off discussion for a particular book, or something along those lines. I don't think we'll be having Poster X's modern lit seminar if that's what has you worried.

eta, I do think that it might be worth consdering if there's a way to have some overlap on the books we're reading so that we can get a good mix of stuff without it becoming too unwieldy. But that's a discussion that I think would take place in the thread should we get to that stage.