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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2004 5:51:43 pm PDT #3916 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have no strenuous arguments to make wrt board load at the moment, because we currently have reduced traffic. I just want to make sure it's not disregarded entirely.


Kat - Jul 05, 2004 5:55:54 pm PDT #3917 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm against it until we figure out what is going on with the backend stuff and resolve since our time on a dedicated server is not destined to be forever.

Also, against it because in the myriad fora in which I participate, I haven't really been fortunate to see a really good model of how it works in one thread on a general interest board. That is, outside of TT's folder that had individual threads for individual books, or Readerville's, which I follow and was much like TT with the individual threads for individual books.


Jon B. - Jul 05, 2004 6:29:43 pm PDT #3918 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I haven't really been fortunate to see a really good model of how it works in one thread on a general interest board.

I think the idea is that one book will be chosen at a time.


Kat - Jul 05, 2004 6:42:00 pm PDT #3919 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Oops, sorry. Not being clear.

The single thread, one-book-at-a-time threads I've been a part of or have seen at various different fora haven't worked because it's hard to wrangle all participants, the time overlaps inevitable (if you say 1 book per month, there's a thing that happens that defies all logic and screws up the time) and then conversation piddles and dies out or overlaps and then dies out.

Eventually people get bored/pissed/aggravated and stop participating, in part because with a large group it's hard to come to a series of books that most people are interested in. The social imperative to read and participate, esp. in books you don't give a shit about, is less in an on line world than a meatspace one because it's easier just to opt out by lurking, where in a meatspace world, I find I'm more willing to read books I don't like (yes, you, Alexander Hamilton Bio) because the social compact I've made is such that if I go for months on end without showing up, they kick me out.

So, the result is that after a time people stop participating, or repurpose the thread into something akin to literary junior.


Connie Neil - Jul 05, 2004 8:32:02 pm PDT #3920 of 10289
brillig

a time people stop participating, or repurpose the thread into something akin to literary junior.

At which point we close the thread. I would rather give it a shot than say "It's never worked anywhere else."


Lyra Jane - Jul 06, 2004 2:50:07 am PDT #3921 of 10289
Up with the sun

I think it's worth a try. If the discussions don't work for whatever reason, we can close the thread.


Fred Pete - Jul 06, 2004 3:38:45 am PDT #3922 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

A couple of questions, then.

Do we want to open the thread on a trial basis? Say, six months or a year?

Also, how would books be chosen? Calli had some great ideas in the Literary thread on this point.

Also, ita -- how are we doing on board resources? Are we close enough to the limit that we really shouldn't even be having this conversation?


Kat - Jul 06, 2004 4:20:00 am PDT #3923 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

At which point we close the thread. I would rather give it a shot than say "It's never worked anywhere else."

Sure. Since we are so good at closing threads that have small yet vocal groups that hold them near and dear.

A better question might be, how many people are actually going to participate?


beth b - Jul 06, 2004 4:34:35 am PDT #3924 of 10289
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I plan on participating. I really like the idea of that if day 1 is the start date , but I don't finish until day three i can jump in then. However, due to the concerns I would like to open the thread on a trial basis for 6 to 12 months with concerns like low participation, board load etc counting.

to do it well we need a definition of low participation.


JenP - Jul 06, 2004 4:36:50 am PDT #3925 of 10289

A better question might be, how many people are actually going to participate?
Hard to say. Even a show of hands doesn't really mean much. Could be it starts out popular and declines. Could be it starts out small and grows.

Also in the would rather give it a shot camp. Trial basis might be a plan. Six months, then put it up for a vote.