If it happens, it'll be nowhere near as bad as the naysayers think it will be, nor will it stop the politics talk in other threads.

I completely agree.

As do I. Because personally, I have seen "discussions" get more angry, rude and "violent" (lack of a better word, I'm working on 5 hours of sleep) over certain episodes of the show that brought us all together into this big happy family in the first place.

As for "ghettoizing" politics, I don't think creating a thread for pople who want to have discussions about a certain subject is any different than the Movies, LotR and even the sub-communities of Bitches and Atlantic Candians. I only came to the board on WX, so I am fairly new. I don't know how Bitches and Atlantic Canadians came about. I am assuming that at some point, there were a group of people who wanted to have this one thread over here - Atlantic Canadians to do their watch 'n posts since they got Buffy earlier the USians, for example. Maybe too much Tampon talk in Natter. Honestly, no idea.

I also find it interesting that so many people who say, "I am not voting for this thread" are also saying, "But I'll post in it."

REVISED PROPOSAL

I propose that there be a Politics Thread. This thread would be for any discussion regarding politics, ways to become involved in politics and other subjects having anything to do with and/or pertaining to politics. Domestic or foreign. Primarily focusing on the upcoming presidential election, but could also include local elections.

This thread will have a trial run of 3 months. If it is found that during that trial period, it is seen that there is either A) not enough interest and/or B) too much trollish behavior **, then the thread will be shut down at the end of the 3 month trial period, with no further discussion in B'rcy and/or Lightbulbs. Furthermore, the thread will then be placed in moratorium for the requisite 6 months.

** I think that there needs to be a discussion on how to define the trollish behavior that would be considered too much. I want to make sure that if, and there are meant to be, a few "loud" discussions, that are within normal Buffista range, that those aren't declared "too trollish". Also, not sure who should be the judge on the trollish behavior. It gets sticky.

Okay, not saying it's the last one, but it's a new one, anyway.

Er, can we still take part in the discussion? I'm confused. I thought the proposal wasn't getting finalized until Monday.

not saying it's the last one, but it's a new one,

It was just an early revision, Burrell.

Hail, Empress!

What she said.

I also find it interesting that so many people who say, "I am not voting for this thread" are also saying, "But I'll post in it."

I would also post about politics in Natter, unless it got outlawed. Someone asked who would actually use it, and I figured, honesty. I use the other movies/music/blahblah threads despite not consensing or voting for them, too. It's where the conversation goes. If I want to talk about it, I have to follow it, regardless of whether I like for it to be there or not.

The other money? Not yet existing, and I can't recommend any course of action that assumes it does.

I already know that you're opposed to a block user feature, and you already know that you don't need to argue with me to keep it from happening. So I'm going to go back to lurking instead of continuing to discuss it.

Noumenon, the Marcie Filter is the most recent topic in the Building a Better Board thread. It reads like people are working on it. The conversation starts here: msbelle "Buffistas Building a Better Board" Apr 2, 2004 6:41:04 am PST

I already know that you're opposed to a block user feature

Noumenon, what? I have never been opposed to the feature. And it's underway. Please don't mischaracterise me with such aplomb. Although I won't get to use it (stompy and all), lots of people seem to need it, and lower blood pressure is a good thing.

My sole point was -- we can't bargain on money to pay for it. Internal resources, like we've always used, that we can bargain on, but not schedule to the minute.

I have seen "discussions" get more angry, rude and "violent" (lack of a better word, I'm working on 5 hours of sleep) over certain episodes of the show that brought us all together into this big happy family in the first place.

Maybe, but at some point, people have stepped back and been able to cool off because it's just a frickin' TV show. We're smart like that.

Politics is different. It affects our lives in very real ways. As such, it's going to be harder for folks to brush the dust off and move on.

I think that there needs to be a discussion on how to define the trollish behavior that would be considered too much.

Rather than trying to define things, one solution would be a simple up/down vote after three months.

I'm still opposed to it because, as David said upthread, the cultural damage we're afraid of may take longer than 3 months to manifest, and it could be irreversible.

Rather than trying to define things, one solution would be a simple up/down vote after three months.

I agree--less turmoil for the community.

I'm with Victor. I don't care much if it happens or not. I don't think it will be as bad as a lot of people think. I do agree with everyone who has mentioned our focus is pop culture, and if/when we grow, it would be more normal to grow in that direction.