Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 12:03:03 pm PST #3684 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Jon makes excellent points. I think I would rather see us become an all-purpose pop culture board (with plenty of natter in-thread and not), not an all-purpose all-purpose board.

Yeah, that would be my preferred direction for the board. If we continue to feed pop culture into the maw, we'll always have something to spin off conversation.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 12:04:13 pm PST #3685 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Kick me, and I'll expand later.

Wouldn't it be easier to just feed you Red Bull and vodka? You're pretty expansive under those conditions.

Hmmm, I wonder if that would work as the Signature Drink?


P.M. Marc - Apr 02, 2004 12:07:00 pm PST #3686 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Wouldn't it be easier to just feed you Red Bull and vodka? You're pretty expansive under those conditions.

Haven't had one in ages. It's not on heavy drink rotation at the moment. (The rotation now? Wine with Ultraviolet, but we only have one more episode to watch, and then it's all gone.)

Later = at home.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 12:11:23 pm PST #3687 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's not on heavy drink rotation at the moment.

Ah, yes. I now associate Lent with you being cranky, but it's only popped up occasionally.


P.M. Marc - Apr 02, 2004 12:13:14 pm PST #3688 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ah, yes. I now associate Lent with you being cranky, but it's only popped up occasionally.

Eh, I gave up on Lent early this year. Too many family birthdays.

t /natter

Basically, what Jon said, with a side of anti-thread spread.


Lyra Jane - Apr 02, 2004 12:14:20 pm PST #3689 of 10289
Up with the sun

I feel it has been a negative *for the board as a whole* even if it hasn't been a negative for you, David S, or for me, P.M. Marcontell.

Despite my exceedingly unpopular generally pro-proliferation stance, I think I know what you mean, Plei. More threads = more subcommunities = less of a chance to rub up against someone often enough to feel you "know" them = more chance for friction due to misunderstood tone.

But I'm not sure there's any way to solve that short of kicking a couple hundred people off the board. Even if we just stick with the threads we have now, they move so fast that it's unlikely every poster can have significant conversation with every other poster. But it does take away from the homey feeling,and I understand why that's a problem from a certain point of view.

Am I completely misunderstanding what you meant?


Fred Pete - Apr 02, 2004 12:17:31 pm PST #3690 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

Jon makes excellent points. I think I would rather see us become an all-purpose pop culture board (with plenty of natter in-thread and not), not an all-purpose all-purpose board.

Yeah, that would be my preferred direction for the board. If we continue to feed pop culture into the maw, we'll always have something to spin off conversation.

Very appealing argument there. In particular, the implication that, if we're going to start a new thread, a general TV thread would fit in better.

My head hurts. Not least because I've been in and out of meetings since 2:30, and I should have gone home 45 minutes ago.


P.M. Marc - Apr 02, 2004 12:18:17 pm PST #3691 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

No, you're getting my drift.

Even if we just stick with the threads we have now, they move so fast that it's unlikely every poster can have significant conversation with every other poster.

Yes, but it's more likely that, even if two people haven't had a chance to bond, they'll at least have a vague impression of each other, if that makes sense. A "hey! it's that guy!" feeling instead of a "who the heck are YOU??!?" feeling.


JohnSweden - Apr 02, 2004 12:21:07 pm PST #3692 of 10289
I can't even.

(Kinda mememe, so anything after sentence one is indulging me, thanks in advance)

I'm inclined to vote against a Politics thread. I really don't want to see the inevitable hard feelings that would result at some point. I know some folks thrive on and seek out conflict, but in my entertainment time, I tend to mostly be a Can't we all just get along-type. Politics generates conflict. The Buffistas are uberbright and generous and I'm sure I would learn stuff. However. USan politics tends to be extremely polarizing, by definition (sadly). I'm on other mailing lists where intensely rancorous political discussions have broken out (even when actively discouraged) among people who make a regular habit of crashing on each other's couches. My own opinion of some of those people from whom I have received and to whom I have extended hospitality, has been diminished by their conduct in said discussions, to my regret (in contrast to extensive time spent in their RL presence).

So that's my saga. I agree with the posters who have suggested that a specific Politics thread is not entirely in the general entertainment focus of the board. There are plenty of places to get politics discussions on the weeb, goodness knows, and when the topic occasionally comes up in Natter, it is usually just enough to educate me, and not send me fleeing the keyboard.

Those are my two cents, and if enough folks really want a politics thread, then they do, and so be it. My inclination is that it wouldn't be a positive step, so I'm agin it.

t YourCottonToItMayVary


Lyra Jane - Apr 02, 2004 12:23:15 pm PST #3693 of 10289
Up with the sun

A "hey! it's that guy!" feeling instead of a "who the heck are YOU??!?" feeling.

Yeah, I see what you mean. Waivering as to whether I agree or disagree and what it means if I do agree, but I understand your point.