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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Wolfram - Apr 02, 2004 7:30:27 am PST #3609 of 10289
Visilurking

If it turns out to be a source of great misery to all involved and leads to an untoward number of trolls or disciplinary issues, it goes. No need to wait out the full three month trial, or six months to a revote.

I'm 100% behind this. And I'd take it a step further and suggest that "untoward number of trolls" be the minimum amount needed to prove the thread has become a troll magnet. I'd suggest 3 trolls within 3 months.


flea - Apr 02, 2004 7:31:20 am PST #3610 of 10289
information libertarian

If Hubs and I move to Massachusetts and get married next month (not likely, but less likely things have happened), should I announce it in Natter or Politics?

If you do this, it's totally Beep Me. IJS.


Wolfram - Apr 02, 2004 7:34:40 am PST #3611 of 10289
Visilurking

It's better to try it and then say, "OK, that was very educational, let's never speak of it again", than to say, "Nope, wouldn't be prudent at this juncture."

Connie stole my brain.


Sean K - Apr 02, 2004 7:40:02 am PST #3612 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

If Hubs and I move to Massachusetts and get married next month (not likely, but less likely things have happened), should I announce it in Natter or Politics?

If you do this, it's totally Beep Me. IJS.

What. flea. said.

On the subject of the thread - I think I would read and post in it, if it were to come to pass, for all the PRO reasons everyone has stated. but my inclination right now is to vote against it, for all the CON reasons everybody has stated.


Dana - Apr 02, 2004 7:44:01 am PST #3613 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's better to try it and then say, "OK, that was very educational, let's never speak of it again", than to say, "Nope, wouldn't be prudent at this juncture."

I admire the sentiment, but can someone name the day that Buffistas managed to never speak of anything?

We're not so good at the shutting up.


Liese S. - Apr 02, 2004 7:49:26 am PST #3614 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Of course if it were just two posters, and Gar & I were in there agreeing with each other, it might be pretty dull for the rest of you. Heh.


Hil R. - Apr 02, 2004 7:59:48 am PST #3615 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Just a quick question, but what days are we going to be voting on this?


Topic!Cindy - Apr 02, 2004 8:01:32 am PST #3616 of 10289
What is even happening?

That's a good question. Passover begins Monday evening. Aimee is out of town, at least through the weekend, I think.


Jon B. - Apr 02, 2004 8:04:07 am PST #3617 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The four days of discussion started yesterday afternoon, so voting would start sometime Monday (Monday night midnight at the latest) and end 72 hours later -- Thursday midnight at the latest.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 8:10:28 am PST #3618 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The three month probation period on the thread doesn't ease my concerns. It's a nice gesture, and I admire the innovation, but everybody can be on their best behavior for three months. I don't think the thread will open and there will be an atomic meltdown destroying all the threads minutes after. I think the damage it might inflict would be of steady pressure building that puts stress on variouis fault lines which already exists.

It's really not a good idea. And I'd rather discuss politics in Natter, as we always have. Because as someone noted (Nutty?), I think the social context of Natter helps shape the political debate. Here's the nub of it for me: politics always starts off as a fun brain game of abstractions, and invariably turns into something deeply personal.

In a politics thread there would be the illusion that people were only arguing the issues. In Natter, it would always be clear that politics are personal, and that when you're arguing an anti-abortion position directly with somebody who has had an abortion, you must take that person's experience into account as you discuss it.