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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 2:02:13 pm PST #3521 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Con: The more threads, the more posts. Can we afford to increase posting volume, given that our dedicated server status is only temporary?

I don't your first statement has been definitively proven. And I think, since many shows have been cancelled, and we're on a new server, this doesn't need to be as big a consideration as it was in the summer. Though I don't mean to discount it completely.

About the new server thing - this server was never meant to be a permanent fix. We're only supposed to be here until we fix the code to the point that we can return to a less expensive host. It's been strongly cautioned a couple of different times since we've moved here that we shouldn't add new threads until the code problems are fixed.

As much as I think I lean in favor of this thread, particularly after the Minearverse incident, I'm probably going to vote down this proposal on the above stated grounds alone.


Aims - Apr 01, 2004 2:03:27 pm PST #3522 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

The fact that Angel is ending and our two main show threads (plus Spoilers) will be effectively dead might balance it out. I don't know.

And now that the deathmatches are over, isn't the Quoteables thread going as well.

I also think that, depending on how the 2004 presidential election turns out, will have a huge impact on the thread. I think that if Pres Bush wins, it's gonna be a largely posted in thread. If Pres Bush loses, it won't be as much.


Connie Neil - Apr 01, 2004 2:04:36 pm PST #3523 of 10289
brillig

I thought the dedicated server thing was something we were always striving for, kind of like moving into our own house instead of being in an apartment all our lives. I didn't know it was temporary.

Huh.


Laura - Apr 01, 2004 2:08:13 pm PST #3524 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

My initial instinct is Pro. Sometimes a person feels like talking politics and other times not so much. I have never felt that I could not mention movies or music in Natter, because Natter. If I was looking for concentrated conversation I would move to the appropriate thread, and probably find Natter.

As concerns scary newbies flocking to the political thread, the same rules that protect the existing threads would apply in a new thread.

I'll be skimming the thread for the next few days as I am still on the fence, unlike the big vote. This is a very important election and many of us will feel a need to discuss the process.


victor infante - Apr 01, 2004 2:08:13 pm PST #3525 of 10289
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

As usual, I don't care which way this goes.

However, I do put this challenge down.

Can arguments in a politics thread STAY in the thread?

If you think they can, I'm all for it.


NoiseDesign - Apr 01, 2004 2:09:28 pm PST #3526 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Refresh my memory, what's our annual cost on the dedicated server?


Aims - Apr 01, 2004 2:11:48 pm PST #3527 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Can arguments in a politics thread STAY in the thread?

Meaning, not bleed over into other ones? I think for the most part, yes. There might a bit of crossover like with other subjects brought up, but if a bigger scale discussion rows from the initial cross over, say a GWB joke or something, at that point, as members of this community, we should say, "Toepick" and the discussion could be moved or, if the participants did not want to continue, then it would die.


Dana - Apr 01, 2004 2:13:40 pm PST #3528 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Can arguments in a politics thread STAY in the thread?

I don't see how. Part of the reason people are talking about the thread is because political discussions in other threads almost always turn acrimonious, right?

The first time someone calls someone else a fascist or a neo-pinko commie scum, I think it's going to cause a fracture, and it'll be felt elsewhere. (Yes, I am ultimate Non-Confrontation Girl.)


flea - Apr 01, 2004 2:16:30 pm PST #3529 of 10289
information libertarian

Have people had experiences at other boards with maintaining polite relationships with those they argue with in politics threads? Anyone got some anecdotes? Was anyone here active in politics at TT?


Connie Neil - Apr 01, 2004 2:16:58 pm PST #3530 of 10289
brillig

If this passes, let's call the thread Las Vegas. Because what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

We hope.