(EtA: Also, I am possibly misunderstanding askye and Trudy's position)

I think so. They seem to be advocating a single Buffy thread, as opposed to both Buffy and Previously. Which the current proposal would do, if either 4 or 4b is passed.

(eta, should 4 be numbered 4a?)

Regarding thread consolidation proposals I am one confusedista. But that's because I'm too tired to concentrate on all the different variations.

How about BUFFIE'N'ANGUL4EVAH!!!!

How about BUFFIE'N'ANGUL4EVAH!!!!

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

Wolfram, right now, this is the ballot as poorly written between classes by me. Kat "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Aug 21, 2003 11:30:27 am PDT.

(eta, should 4 be numbered 4a?)

Probably. I am having subordination issues recently.

Basically I see it as three options:

1. Do nothing.
2. Eliminate the previously thread and just have a Buffy thread. Which would obviously cover all of Buffy. If syndies of Angel were discussed there, fine with me. But I also think syndication of Angel could be discussed in thread. Will the non NAFDA people get syndication at the same time as the NAFDA folks?
3. Keep Previously but have it refashioned to either be solely previously on Angel or Previously on Angel and Buffy.

In part, it seems like we are really looking at the semantics of it all. If we have a "BUFFY" thread that had talk of syndicated Angels, seems like that would be fine. Some people, and I include myself in this group, think that the thread should be a BUFFY thread. Others seem to want it to be named a PREVIOUSLY thread. But, I think but I'm not 100% sure, both groups in this category want to eliminate one thread.

So the existing threads in instance 1 would be
Buffy/Previously/Angel (though I have read arguments here, when the current Buffy thread closes it should be Previously/Angel)

With option two, it would be
Buffy/Angel.

With option three, it would be
Buffy/Previously including Angel/Angel.

Kat, the way I read the ballot is that a Yes vote on 4 is a vote to close the Previously thread. This would mean that syndicated episodes would most likely be discussed in the show threads. 4B was simply to add the contingency that, if 4 does not pass, that is, if Previously remains open, that it be repurposed to include discussion of Angel in syndication.

Is that what you meant?

One of the things that I think is confusing discussion right now is that campaigning for other options--ones not currently on the ballot--is taking place. I don't think that the ballot as written is confusing. It's the discussion that's confusing to me.

Kat, the way I read the ballot is that a Yes vote on 4 is a vote to close the Previously thread. This would mean that syndicated episodes would most likely be discussed in the show threads. 4B was simply to add the contingency that, if 4 does not pass, that is, if Previously remains open, that it be repurposed to include discussion of Angel in syndication.

Is that what you meant?

YES! Thank you. I was trying to talk out what else was being talked about and got all confused as I was writing.

So basically, what's above ^^^. I do not advocate letting the Buffy thread peter out and eventually letting Previously replace it when it reaches the 10,000 so I'm not going to ballot that option.

As of right now, the ballot stands at
1. Do nothing. NO CHANGE TO ANYTHING.
2. Close and archive Previously. Syndication conversation will return to the respective show threads.
3.If there isn't a majority (was it majority or plurality? Please don't kill me) to close it and the Previously thread stays, should it be repurposed to include Angel?

Okay the ballot as written is clear. The discussion on the ballot is confusing because of the 11 or 12 issues, they are each discussed separately. For example, I have no clue what goes on in the Fanfic threads and I don't know whether to vote yes or no. But finding the opinions on that particular issue is going to take dedication (and threadsuck) and I don't feel like doing it.

For this ballot in particular I think the pro and con opinions need to be included so people know what the affected Buffistas think. Or if someone could Nilly them before the vote that would also be helpful.

was it majority or plurality? Please don't kill me

Heh. Since the ballot question has only two choices, they are the same thing. Majority means more than half of the votes; plurality means the most votes of all the choices.