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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Steph L. - Aug 21, 2003 7:16:39 am PDT #3156 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But we always handled an Angel thread before AND a Buffy thread.

I honestly don't think that the Angel S5 thread will be higher-volume than last season's Angel and Buffy combined.

Or am I really naive?


Dana - Aug 21, 2003 7:17:42 am PDT #3157 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Because a) Kristen said so, and she's in charge of panic

And respectfully, it's all well and good to tell people not to panic, but when our (does she have an official title? webhost liason? official server goddess) panics, it's the kind of thing that tends to be contagious.

I'd be happy if we could just combine the various discussions into one thread at this point. Is there any way we can get everyone over here?


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2003 7:17:52 am PDT #3158 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But we always handled an Angel thread before AND a Buffy thread.

We didn't always handle this many people.

And if we've already managed to quadruple the allowed connections with no new episodes, I think it's fair to consider we may do even more than that when there are.


Burrell - Aug 21, 2003 7:22:57 am PDT #3159 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Responding to Cindy's post:

Ditch the idea of having any Previously thread.

I totally agree, but I got a bit pissed on when I suggested it earlier. Still, nice to know someone else thinks so too.

Ditch All Quotables Threads

Agree as well, but I’d wait until the Death Matches are over.

Close all spoilers lite threads

Agree here too. Mild spoilerphobes like myself can take our inquiries offline. Honestly, if we are worried about bandwidth, let’s contain our discussion of the shows to a single NAFDA thread and keep the UnAm thread (Atlantic Canadians will have to suss out for themselves whether it’s worth it or not to keep their own thread).

I think these kinds of housekeeping changes can be made in addition to the ones Kat has already suggested.

I see no reason at this point to get rid of Movies, Music, and Literary, etc.


Burrell - Aug 21, 2003 7:28:30 am PDT #3160 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Burrell, that's manifestly not what I said. Or it should have been manifest if it wasn't. I'm more than happy to cut what's extraneous, particularly if it will make a difference.

I wasn't referring to you necessarily, Suela. In fact, you are one of the people who said they were willing to see their baby go (Farscape). But several others *have* made a big deal about not wanting to lose a particular personally-beloved thread, whatever that may be.

I do think that it is counter productive to suggest getting rid of Natter and Bitches and then go on to say that you were either a) not serious or b) didn't want it to happen. I think that the discussion would benefit more from serious suggestions and reasoned compromises.


Sean K - Aug 21, 2003 7:45:40 am PDT #3161 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, but the suggestion was made because people were talking about cutting loose tiny threads that don't see much activity, which is going to have zero effect on our problem, so the suggestion was half serious.

when I made the suggestion I had less of an understanding of the problem and how bad it was than I do now. Last night, I thought we were much worse off than we are.

Kristen and ita have made clear what was not clear last night - that we're not that bad off yet, so I have backed off the idea.

So, while maybe you were not trying to scold me or anyone else specifically, Burrell, it does feel a little like you're scolding us. Though I'm probably reading you wrong, as I have done so in the past.


Burrell - Aug 21, 2003 7:54:51 am PDT #3162 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I'm not scolding anyone, Sean, just offering my opinion, which as it happens runs counter to something that you said. Please try to not take our differences of opinion quite so personally, and I think you'll see that my comments are aimed towards the general discussion, not you.


Sean K - Aug 21, 2003 7:56:00 am PDT #3163 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Please try to not take our differences of opinion quite so personally, and I think you'll see that my comments are aimed towards the general discussion, not you.

Like I said, I was probably reading you wrong, as I have done so in the past.


Jessica - Aug 21, 2003 8:01:19 am PDT #3164 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

FWIW, here's the list of Threads I Think We Could Reasonably Stand To Lose, in no particular order:

  • Buffista Corp
  • Spoilage Lite: Buffy
  • Buffista Music 1: The Music (And Who Can Blame It) Swells
  • Buffista Movies 1: Go Monkey. Choose Monkey.
  • Previously 1: The Who Whating How With Huh?
  • The Quotable Buffy: She said that? When?
  • Smallville 1: Clex!
  • Literary Buffistas: Don't Speak Latin in Front of the Books
  • The Minearverse: YExpirationDateMV
  • Due South: Mountie Fetishists Anon!
  • Spoilage Lite: Angel
  • The Quotable Firefly: Oh, my God, I am a hack...
  • The Jossverse in Other Media
  • Farscape 1: Fetch the Comfy Chair
  • F2F Planning
  • Sang Sacre 1: It's a Blood, Blood, Blood, Blood World
  • LotR - The Two Towers: "Dude, Where's my Precious?"

[eta: Also assuming that we're rolling all three fanfic workshop threads together.]


DavidS - Aug 21, 2003 8:19:52 am PDT #3165 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Closing Bitches and Natter is sort of like cutting off your head to lighten the load on your sinking boat.

It's not a good idea, and while I'm all for putting everything on the table, that idea should be removed from the table. It is the essence of the community to many people and to keep talking about it raises the panic level and blood pressure. It's not a useful solution to get rid of what constitutes the community to save the community. There would be no community to save. Particularly since Buffy's off the air, to privilege the show threads over the community talk would be pure suicide.

Frankly, there would be a massive defection to Peopleforum or something similar, and the community would schism and splinter into LJ-land.

As much as I'm loving the deathmatch, from what I understand the fact that we're racking hundreds and hundreds of low-content posts there is a much bigger strain on our resources than the threads with little activity.

I understand and appreciate the desire to house clean and consolidate threads but this is basically rearranging deck chairs on the Titatanic. The threads that have few posts are not causing any problems.

If archiving closed threads would be helpful, then we should do that immediately and it shouldn't be an issue. We've got lots of very old threads archived elsewhere.