Joyce: You don't think it's too obvious? I think I look like I have a cat on my head. Buffy: But a very well groomed cat. Joyce: Well that's a comfort.

'Bring On The Night'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Deena - Mar 23, 2003 6:40:55 pm PST #315 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

That's how it seemed to be leaning, to me, when it was discussed in bureacracy, Kat.


Cindy - Mar 23, 2003 6:43:32 pm PST #316 of 10289
Nobody

Kat - Mar 23, 2003 6:44:14 pm PST #317 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Huh. That's interesting. So people who propose something which is voted against get to bring it up ad infinitum as long as they follow the moratorium.

People who advocate against something and lose don't get the same priviledge?


Betsy HP - Mar 23, 2003 6:53:51 pm PST #318 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

I think moratorium means moratorium. Six months before we bring the whole painful topic up again, win or lose.

If six months should win.

As is only right.


John H - Mar 23, 2003 6:57:11 pm PST #319 of 10289

That can't be the case for thread creation, surely -- are you saying that every six months I can say "I still think a Movies thread is wrong, and we should shut it down"?

Not that I would...


Jesse - Mar 23, 2003 6:59:53 pm PST #320 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That can't be the case for thread creation, surely -- are you saying that every six months I can say "I still think a Movies thread is wrong, and we should shut it down"?

Oh, I think so. And really, I think it should be that way -- but then, I'm an anti-proliferationist. But think about it -- if we only ever open threads and never close them, we'd have a zillion threads eventually, right?


John H - Mar 23, 2003 7:07:03 pm PST #321 of 10289

That reminds me, people seem to think, correct me if I'm wrong, that having more threads is inherently a Bad Thing in terms of bandwidth and board stability.

It's not, I believe, and people are mistaken about this just because of what they believe caused the recent outage/database problems.

It's not, correct me if I'm wrong, ita, that creating more threads causes database problems, but simply that experience shows that having more threads means there's more traffic.

The outage wasn't caused by having too many threads, in other words, though it's logical to assume that our increases in traffic are due in part to having more threads.


Jesse - Mar 23, 2003 7:11:40 pm PST #322 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My understanding is that the Recent Outage wasn't because of bandwidth at all, but I do believe bandwidth could become a problem at some future point, and I also believe that having more threads means we use more bandwidth -- see that Natter hasn't slowed down, even with new threads around.

None of which has anything to do with the matter at hand.

Go 6!


Deena - Mar 23, 2003 7:36:19 pm PST #323 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I must have said that wrong. If something wins, no one agitates against it for X months. If something loses, no one agitates for it for X months. That's what I recall from bureacracy. Any decision can revisited after the moratorium.

clarifying because this is part of what made me lean toward 6.


billytea - Mar 23, 2003 7:38:30 pm PST #324 of 10289
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

So perhaps (it seems, to my mind) the ballot would most fairly look like this:

I actually think that would unfairly penalise 6 months. See, if we go with that option, 6 would need to get over half the primary votes to win. The other two options only need to win a preferential ballot.