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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


esse - Aug 20, 2003 8:23:10 am PDT #3003 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Is there a way to do this without creating an overly general thread?

We could include an explanation in the thread description and perhaps the FAQ that the thread was created for genre tv, specifically for but not limited to Smallville, due South, Stargate, etc. It would be up to the thread participants to keep it in check, which I don't forsee a problem with.

Is an Ikea thread specific enough?

Sure. Plus it's a cute name.

What would it be used for and how?

Discussing the specific television shows mentioned above, along with wherever the discussion happens to ramble. I think the how is for the people who talk in the thread and not so much a Lightbulb/B'cy issue.

Is my dehydrated brain creating contingencies for problems which don't exist and most likely won't?

Possibly, but the worry is well-founded considering the trouble we have pinning down what we want.

And how did bo-bita and I both coincidentally wear pink today? Is that about planetary alignment?

Check your horoscopes.


Katie M - Aug 20, 2003 8:23:23 am PDT #3004 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I want Katie as my queen.

Woo hoo! I'm goin' out to buy a crown, baby.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 8:28:48 am PDT #3005 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, I'm a little concerned that if we just throw everything in together, we've gone and created a general TV thread, anyway.

I think that was my primary motivation for suggesting categorized threads.

I'm happy to go with whatever.

However, think while I type, even if we do wind up creating a more or less general TV thread, if we do it while eliminating the other three threads, I think we zero out the balance on both sides - yes, we risk increased SQL connections (the primary technical problem) but we also eliminate discussion across three other threads, which Kristen pointed out will help, even if those three threads are not heavily trafficked.


Jessica - Aug 20, 2003 8:29:42 am PDT #3006 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

even if we do wind up creating a more or less general TV thread, if we do it while eliminating the other three threads, I think we zero out the balance on both sides

Not if the new thread gets more traffic than the current three combined, which is my worry.


Kat - Aug 20, 2003 8:34:59 am PDT #3007 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

That's the likely way of it. So while we don't want to create a new general tv thread, consolidation of three genre tv threads into one genre tv thread is going to make that one thread the closest thing we have to a general tv thread. I think.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Not if the new thread gets more traffic than the current three combined, which is my worry.

Yep. My worry too.

If we do as suggested and say, something like "Genre TV: We started with Due South, Smallville, and Farscape. . ." would that help?

We could also leave them as is, but it seems sort of weird to consolidate elsewhere and not there, esp. since they are low traffic.

Or, and I'm not really thinking this is an option I want, we could eliminate all three and not replace them with anything.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 8:47:21 am PDT #3008 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Not if the new thread gets more traffic than the current three combined, which is my worry.

Yep. My worry too.

Yeah, it still might be a problem. But it would be less of a problem than keeping all three threads and making a fourth general TV thread. But it could still be a problem.


Lyra Jane - Aug 20, 2003 8:51:08 am PDT #3009 of 10289
Up with the sun

What if we start it with the contingency that we can re-evaluate in three months, when it will be more clear whether we'll have database problems or not? If we start the Fannish TV and the database falls down and goes boom from the overload, we can make another plan.


esse - Aug 20, 2003 8:55:26 am PDT #3010 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

That sounds good to me, Lyra. And of course, if there are any problems sooner than that we can address them in BBaB.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 9:03:56 am PDT #3011 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well, I think the concern there is if we do something to make the board go boom, we may make our hosts unhappy with us.


Fred Pete - Aug 20, 2003 9:13:14 am PDT #3012 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

The problem with "Genre TV" is, what is genre? Or for that matter, which genre?

If we're talking SF/fantasy, the thread is (at least in theory) open to Twilight Zone (all incarnations), Star Trek (ditto), and a number of other shows (Dark Shadows reruns air on SciFi, and right now 2 characters are 25 years in the future....)

If the idea is more "cult shows" in the sense of a devoted fan base without a lot of mainstream acceptance, the above would qualify along with such shows as Twin Peaks.

I think I've just convinced myself that a Genre or Fannish thread could easily end up a de facto General TV thread.