Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Lee - Mar 22, 2003 11:56:12 am PST #233 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

But there's a groundswell in my head for 6.

I hope it's not giving you a headache. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)


Cindy - Mar 22, 2003 12:54:05 pm PST #234 of 10289
Nobody

If we can't come to a consensus for 3 vs 4, I'd rather have a ballot with "Put a number between 2 and 8* in this box" (average the results, round to the nearest integer) than three choices, just to get to the final answer quicker.

(*2 and 8 months seeming like the absolute lowest and highest reasonable time limits to me, but obviously that's up for debate.)

I think this too. It's how we got to perfect number 42 on the minimum vote total. Average it. Then we can stop having the 3 or 4 discussion.


Burrell - Mar 22, 2003 12:58:24 pm PST #235 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't like the idea of averaging. I want to vote either between 6 & 3 or 6 & 4. It's cleaner. Plus, I feel like it's silly of us not to be able to come to some agreement on 3 versus 4. Egad!


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2003 1:17:41 pm PST #236 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't like averaging either. I vote for 6 (or 3 or 4) because that's what I want it to be. Not 5.7. Or 5.

If we can't pick between 3 and 4, make a three choice ballot.


Noumenon - Mar 22, 2003 1:47:45 pm PST #237 of 10289
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

We voted for the right thing on majority/plurality. Having both 3 and 4 months on the ballot won't split the 3-month vote, because we'll probably have a runoff.


Gus - Mar 22, 2003 1:59:30 pm PST #238 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Maybe I'm just in a great mood, or something. I've been reading through a threadsuck of this and laughing like a loon. It is like a really tounge-in-cheek mathematical "Waiting for Godot."

ESTRAGON:
You gave me a fright.
VLADIMIR:
I thought it was three.
ESTRAGON:
Four?
VLADIMIR:
Godot. No. Monkey.
ESTRAGON:
Pah! The wind in the reeds. 'Twas six.
VLADIMIR:
I could have sworn I heard shouts.
ESTRAGON:
And why would three shout?
VLADIMIR:
At his horse.
Silence.
ESTRAGON:
(violently). I'm hungry!


P.M. Marc - Mar 22, 2003 2:55:55 pm PST #239 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I am (obviously) torn between 3 and 6.

4 can talk to the hand. It gives me no love.


Cindy - Mar 22, 2003 5:38:20 pm PST #240 of 10289
Nobody

I don't like the idea of averaging. I want to vote either between 6 & 3 or 6 & 4. It's cleaner. Plus, I feel like it's silly of us not to be able to come to some agreement on 3 versus 4. Egad!

I didn't like it yesterday. But we came over here, proposed it as certain numbers came up with 3 and 6 and then people wanted 4. It's making me tired.

4 can talk to the hand. It gives me no love.

My sistah.


Typo Boy - Mar 22, 2003 6:06:58 pm PST #241 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Look I think people who support six months should be allowed to have an opininion about second choice. But the people who favor six choosing three as the only alternative is like someone running for office choosing their opponent. And I know it is not intended that way - but it is the result.

I mean we are voting on stuff, except a consenus is declared to exlude four as a choice to vote on?

I think three choices is not unreasonable.


Typo Boy - Mar 22, 2003 6:18:27 pm PST #242 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I didn't like it yesterday. But we came over here, proposed it as certain numbers came up with 3 and 6 and then people wanted 4. It's making me tired.

I'm sorry this makes you tired Cindy. I thought the point of having a discussion periods is so that what we are voting on is not is not set in stone on the first day of discussion. I honestly don't think someone is being unbearably tedious by coming in late in the discussion, and saying - no I want a choice besides those two. And I'm pretty sure four was brought up early in the discussion. I mean I'm not the only one who likes four; but it is not the number than primarily concerns me.I don't want a new precedent where alternatives are excluded from the vote because they are not brought up the first day of discussion, and then of course discssion is closed for _ months.

If you are going to have a vote and then close discussion for a certain number of months I think you should do one of two things;

1) get at least an old buffista style consensus on alternatives where there are no strong minority objections

2) put all alternatives with strong support on the ballot. Remember a minority of the discussio may win a majority of the vote.