I know, world in peril and we have to work together. This is my last office romance, I'll tell you that.

Buffy ,'End of Days'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 9:57:53 am PDT #2307 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Just PRETEND the anti-spoilers are off the table.

What other spoiler concerns do you have?

DO you have any?


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 9:59:36 am PDT #2308 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Huh. I've been in Spoilers since "Chosen," and I haven't noticed a culture of making fun of other Buffistas. Being relatively new to that thread, I think I would have noticed it.

There is a list of links if you'd like to see it. Posting them here has seemed inflamatory and has been avoided.


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2003 10:00:43 am PDT #2309 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Trudy, I have said several times, and in several ways, what my concerns are.

As you seem to have not paid any attention to them, or think they're invalid, I'm through restating my arguments, because it's just extra typing that my damaged wrists no longer need.


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2003 10:03:56 am PDT #2310 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What other spoiler concerns do you have?

There was the whole Cross-Show Whitefont Rule, which tightened the definition of spoilers considerably.

True, it's moot now, because only Buffy and Angel were related shows, and Firefly is dead (and even if it weren't, I'd be shocked to see, for instance, Clem show up on Serenity), and I doubt Wonderfalls is at all related to the Jossverse.

Still. That's an example of the spoiler policy getting tightened beyond the much-touted FAQ limits.


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 10:05:32 am PDT #2311 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I am very much paying attention.

I am also trying to clarify the problem. I primarily see your spoiler concerns as anti-spoilers and the elephant.


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 10:06:36 am PDT #2312 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Thank you Steph!

We have:

the elephant
anti-spoilers
cross-show whitefont

Any others?


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2003 10:08:08 am PDT #2313 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Tep, cause you be grey, insent.

Brenda, if you have a moment, could you mail me?


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2003 10:09:12 am PDT #2314 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Still. Cross-show whitefont is moot, until such time as there's a Jossverse spinoff and AtS goes into its 10th season and we all yell "Seinfeld! Just end the show!" at the screen.

I don't think we have to worry about that any more.

I just mentioned it as an example of how spoilers have gotten more tightly defined than what's in the FAQ.

t edit Plei, if your e-mail is trying to collect on that dollar, I'ma send you 100 pennies.

[Note: that is not an in-joke related to this discussion at all. I offered her a dollar for totally unrelated reasons. ::cough::sexualfavors::cough::]


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2003 10:13:08 am PDT #2315 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Steph: snerk! Not at all.

And it's not that you're THAT new to spoilers. You've been in there off and on for a while.


Kristen - Jul 26, 2003 10:13:09 am PDT #2316 of 10289

I am so freaking confused.

Yes, we have made changes to the FAQ since March 20th. In fact, we made a small change to it [the addition of Doblerize] on March 21st. And there was talk in April about adding our voting procedures to it but I don't think that has happened yet.

When I voted for grandfathering, I did not vote to have it applied to the FAQ. It hadn't occurred to me that it was even a possiblity. The FAQ is not, and should not, be a legal document set in stone. It is an overview of information designed to help people navigate this place. Tying our hands by turning it into something we need to start voting on in order to change is a bureaucratic headache we don't need.

Yes, the FAQ does contain references to decisions and policies that we have made decisions on. But it doesn't contain every decision and it is a constantly evolving document.

At the heart of it all, I guess I just don't understand the viewpoint of extreme spoilerphobes. I don't get how knowing that NSYNC will be joining the AtS next fall as series regulars is a spoiler since we don't know how or why or when they will appear. If I heard news like that, I'd be too interested in speculating on it all. If it was announced that JAR would not be a regular next season because he's taken a second job as my pool boy, I don't see how that's a spoiler either.

But, you know, if we decide that both of those examples are spoilers, fine. It's not going to kill me to only talk about them in Spoilers. I am, however, going to propose an end to this anti-spoiler law once this current topic has been dealt with. Because yes. That one makes me insane.