Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Sean K - Jul 25, 2003 8:26:45 am PDT #1862 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Where? To whom?

Serious question - because if this truly is common knowledge then it's a moot point.

*I* think it's common knowledge. The (what seems to me) small handful of other people who don't know are the only people I know who are unaware of the change.


Lyra Jane - Jul 25, 2003 8:28:03 am PDT #1863 of 10289
Up with the sun

I like the 2/3 notion a lot. IMO if the network is promoting and Joss is freely discussing a casting issue then the pleasure (or dread) of anticipation outweighs the desire for possible HSQ. (for me)

I like this idea too, in part because it's fairly hard-and-fast. Just to make sure I understand, the three are:

1. ME web site/press releases/other official media

2. Network web site/press relases/other official media

3. Interviews with show producers, cast members, writers, or directors published in national media outlets


P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2003 8:29:24 am PDT #1864 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm going to state that I don't really like the 2/3 notion, because Angelus returning wouldn't have been a spoiler by the 2/3 thing.

Although I'm confused: are you only talking 2/3 WRT Opening Credits Cast?


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:29:27 am PDT #1865 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

You asked where the posters debuted.

Yes, and you answered, thank you. Then I asked a second question. Which you answered. Thank you.

I understand it would suck to not be able to post in show threads for two months – but OTOH, we're really talking about *one* thread (Angel) for *eight* weeks.

Are we? Talking about one thread, I mean? I asked this upthread - if people start talking freely about this issue or issues will it just be in the Angel thread, or the other NAFDA threads (Bitches, Bitchy Fic, Buffy (which will still be around for a while, IIRC))?


Susan W. - Jul 25, 2003 8:31:05 am PDT #1866 of 10289
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

But it's so pretttttttty!

I like it too, Teppy. Mmmmm.


justkim - Jul 25, 2003 8:31:23 am PDT #1867 of 10289
Another social casualty...

Question regarding "common knowledge":

Many posts back I posited a hypothetical question about casting. What if an ME had been arrested for some crime, which then affected said actor's ability to be on the show. How would that situation be defined?

Specific example. Whe Robert Downey, Jr. was on Ally McBeal, his life issues affected his appearance on the show. Now, RDJ is a well known actor, and AB was a highly visible show. The story got lots of coverage and was hard to avoid. However, neither Angel (or other ME shows) nor their supporting actors are quite so high profile, so a similar story might not be so widely reported and might not become "common knowledge".

Do we refrain from ever mentioning it? Who decides "common knowledge"? These generalizations are complicating the issue for me. When does a "spoiler" become news?


Gandalfe - Jul 25, 2003 8:33:04 am PDT #1868 of 10289
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Re: common knowledge:

My 8 year old knows about it (the Big Shiny Spoiler) - one of his friends told him.


Lyra Jane - Jul 25, 2003 8:33:26 am PDT #1869 of 10289
Up with the sun

Although I'm confused: are you only talking 2/3 WRT Opening Credits Cast?

It's my understanding that opening credits are all we're talking about. A lot of things we considered spoilers (Angelus and Faith last season, and I think Connor's case of SORAS) wouldn't have been under the 2/3 rule, and I don't think the board as a whole wants to make that change.

Are we? Talking about one thread, I mean? I asked this upthread - if people start talking freely about this issue or issues will it just be in the Angel thread, or the other NAFDA threads (Bitches, Bitchy Fic, Buffy (which will still be around for a while, IIRC))?

I don't know -- I was assuming one thread, but I know it will be hard to enforce. Proposers?


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:33:49 am PDT #1870 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Who decides "common knowledge"? These generalizations are complicating the issue for me. When does a "spoiler" become news?

A fair question. I'd like to know the answer myself.

I think that it's when it becomes more than just trade (or 'entertainment') news. When it hits the mainstream. I don't know if that complicates things or not.


Gandalfe - Jul 25, 2003 8:34:21 am PDT #1871 of 10289
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

What about if Alexis Denisof dies due to injuries incurred during the honeymoon? Could we talk about that?