'Out Of Gas'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
I think this change will strike a nice balance between enjoyment of the show and enjoyment on this board via better discussions in the show topics.
I don't think it will ruin anything for anyone as long as no one also give away story spoilers with the casting like "I just read on TheWB site that Xander is joining the cast of Angel to fix and marry Cordelia!"
This is the only slippery slope I see.
To follow up on candyb's post, if we announce the casting spoilers now, it's going to be easier to make sure that only the casting stuff gets announced, since there's not much out there on other points yet.
I don't personally feel that the slope is all that slippery. There's no plot information that can be gleaned from knowing changes to the regular cast only, beyond "S5 will include plots that involve Angel."
And I am SO glad this is finally being brought to a head.
Plus, casting spoilers for the main cast are pretty widely known before promos air. But if people who know those casting changes want to discuss it in Spoilers, but those people aren't hard-core spoiler whores, they might find out that (for instance) Gunn's never-before-mentioned wife and baby will be on the show in episode 4, because they're on the run from the demon mafia.
I don't have anything to add other, than "Thank god, FINALLY," either. Maybe an effective date?
Also, I'd change "spoilers" in the first sentence to "changes" -- it's kinda silly to call them spoilers when the whole point is it's not a spoiler.
In Angel season 1, was Doyle leaving and Wesley coming on advertised ahead of time? That's the sort of main-credits-casting-spoiler I definitely would not have wanted to read about here ahead of time.
(Moving this down, since there were so many posts made while I was editing:)
[edit: It didn't make it into the wording posted at the beginning of this discussion, but there was some suggestion that we apply this new spoiler definition only to changes made over the summer. So, Wesley leaving the show after S4 = not spoilery. Buffy being added to the regular cast midseason = spoiler.]
and should be discussed in the show threads
I'd amend this to say "may be discussed," 'cuz I don't like being told what I SHOULD do.
'cuz I don't like being told what I SHOULD do.
Gandalfe, you WILL go discuss William Shatner joining the cast of Angel, and you will do it NOW!
No?
Damn.
I don't think it will ruin anything for anyone as long as no one also give away story spoilers with the casting like "I just read on TheWB site that Xander is joining the cast of Angel to fix and marry Cordelia!"
Wrod. I would suggest adding to the proposal something along the lines of: "Any plot points related to the character's (not the actor's) arrival or departure are to be treated as spoilers."