Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.
'Touched'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Sophia Brooks - May 16, 2003 1:27:21 pm PDT #1322 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Cindy - May 16, 2003 1:35:14 pm PDT #1323 of 10289
Nobody
(it really, really, really scares you, Sophia? ;)
Sophia Brooks - May 16, 2003 1:37:32 pm PDT #1324 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
That was bad-- My computer just scared me by doing it on my own!
Jon B. - May 16, 2003 1:37:42 pm PDT #1325 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I would hope that those things wot should never be revisited wouldn't get the five initial votes (proposal + 4 secondses) necessary to get revisited.
Laura - May 16, 2003 1:40:03 pm PDT #1326 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
That is my thought too Jon. I don't really feel a need for a vote on the grandpappy thing, but I am good with whatever is decided.
Wolfram - May 16, 2003 1:40:21 pm PDT #1327 of 10289
Visilurking
This reminds me of that. It means we only have a 6th month moratorium on being called Buffistas or something. Some decisions should never be revisited.
I think this fear is overrated. Like Nutty said, anyone who brings up changing the buffistas name is going to get creamed. Not everything is up for proposal and voting, and it's up to the buffistas to figure out what to allow and what not to allow.
That being said, if voting on the grandfather clause scares that many people, then I'll go on record as having no objection to its permanent withdrawal.
Jon B. - May 16, 2003 1:43:14 pm PDT #1328 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
That is my thought too Jon. I don't really feel a need for a vote on the grandpappy thing, but I am good with whatever is decided.
Oh, I'm all for the grandpappy clause. I was responding to Sophia's concern.
Burrell - May 16, 2003 1:43:50 pm PDT #1329 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
That being said, if voting on the grandfather clause scares that many people, then I'll go on record as having no objection to its permanent withdrawal.
Sure you're not just saying that so you can bring up the War Thread again? t tries to duck t fails miserably t runs away
Lyra Jane - May 16, 2003 1:47:35 pm PDT #1330 of 10289
Up with the sun
My question is what determines a decision being made, vs., "It was mentioned, but we never really talked it into the ground until our eyeballs bled reached consensus, it just wasn't at the top of anyone's list so we moved on."?
For example, I think the Will of the Buffistas is pretty clearly anti-war/politics thread, but I think it's more mixed on general TV/Alias/ME graduate studies.
Allyson - May 16, 2003 1:56:59 pm PDT #1331 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Like Nutty said, anyone who brings up changing the buffistas name is going to get creamed
Today, yes.
Two years from now? Could be a proposal to be called Bronzers. Secondsies and Twenty-fivesies could happen. And the last haggard, battle torn Buffistas, they shall not have the energy to fight it.
This proposal really falls under, "Who are we, who do we want to be?" for me.
The rules you make now will effect Buffistas five years from now. The community could burn out and only see four posts a day in each thread, and then newbies come in and take over, and all you have to govern are memories of what the old-school Buffistas long ago decided. The benefit of those decisions is that the old school folks have been there, done that, squabbled over every last gerund.
The Bronze was around for 5 years, and still, every couple of months, a battle would erupt over the four post per hour rule, which was designed to A) Conserve bandwidth so folks with dialups could participate without crashing, and 2) sort of force people to use their post time in a more wise manner, since you had to wait at least 15 minutes before posting again, it allowed you time to compose
And, occassionally, there were so many newbies who thought that rule sucked, that they would chatspeak the day away, regardless. And there wasn't enough oldbies to choke the weeds, after a few years.
We're thinking about this in terms of six months. I think about board communities in terms of six years. Tis why I'm anti-change, mayhaps.